Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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This forum will go very quiet when Great Britain has a recruitment drive or resumes National Service, and the experts scurry off to take up arms and put their military (and computer simulation) knowledge to practical use. Won't it.... ? ;)

As an aside, as one of those sad but dedicated amateur radio buffs, I am annoyed by the number of fellow hams who berate Russian amateurs on the air if they dare make a call on the short waves. But one the other day made me chuckle when some German was constantly butting in to say stop the war, stop the killing, leave the Ukraine. He said in perfect, but heavily accented English, "Look pal, I am sat in a freezing cold shed with some crap home made beer, putting a call out to fellow amateur radio enthusiasts, not sat next to Putin in the Kremlin, advising him of military ******* strategy! I am just a regular guy as worried as anyone else about what's happening next" :)

I don't post much in here as I know sod all about military matters, and in Motors, where I could, with due modesty, post as an expert, it's too much like the day job. So i just wind up a few folks whose opinions wind me up, and occupationally try and help if I feel the subject is serious and I feel able to do so, like most average posters.
 
Thekwango said:
you've missed my point (or i may not have articulated it very well, apologies if that is the case) - i've no issue with discussion and debate etc. i'm always more than happy to listen to opposing views (when they aren't a load of obviously made up guff :p)

my 'moan' is with the small number of individuals who regularly appear and set themselves up as some sort of authority on a particular subject (or rather on any subject)

don't mistake me recognizing a small number of posters for what they are with not wanting debate or discussion.
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You could always challenge them if you think they're wrong and your knowledge is greater than theirs.
 
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Minusorange said:
You could always challenge them if you think they're wrong and your knowledge is greater than theirs?
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bit harsh no, seems a little ott no? are you one of the armchair experts who actually knows **** all that drifts from thread to thread - i can only assume yes given how upset my post has made you.
 
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dowie said:
I think you're reading too much into that part, I suspect Russia is referring to the fact the main government buildings, presidential palace etc.. haven't been blown up.



No they're not, they clearly have left that part of the capital untouched and they're threatening to change that.
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Correct it is clear that Russia has not as of yet launched absolute or sustained rocket attacks on central kyiv or the government administrative buildings there.

I thought it was just a fire and bad sea that sunk it though?
 
Thekwango said:
whining like a little bitch? bit harsh no, seems a little ott no? are you one of the armchair experts who actually knows **** all that drifts from thread to thread - i can only assume yes given how upset my post has made you.
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Not harsh at all, you're whining about people who have the ability to discuss multiple topics intelligently on a discussion forum, the only one proclaiming them as experts is yourself
 
Minusorange said:
Not harsh at all, you're whining about people who have the ability to discuss multiple topics intelligently on a discussion forum, the only one proclaiming them as experts is yourself
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Nope. That’s not what I’m doing. But you carry on ahead believing that if it helps you get through the day.
 
Minusorange said:
Not harsh at all, you're whining about people who have the ability to discuss multiple topics intelligently on a discussion forum, the only one proclaiming them as experts is yourself
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Now that is genuinely entertaining. Not for any reasons that you would be happy with I'd like to make clear as I doubt you get it.
 
The Running Man said:
I thought it was just a fire and bad sea that sunk it though?
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Russia should stop denying it and just spin it into a good thing!

Russia use the same style of Soviet anti ship missiles Ukraine claim to have sunk it with (they just both call them by a different name) so they should just start boasting about how great this is!

I.E: "Our flagship was the best in the world! And it was wrecked by the missiles we use! So our missiles are the best in the world! Rasha #1!"
 
Past 8hrs:
*Russian Defence Ministry: Ilyich Plant In Mariupol Has Been Completely 'Liberated' From Ukraine's Forces
*Russian Defence Ministry: Number And Scale Of Missile Attacks On Facilities In Kyiv Will Increase In Response To Kiev's Forces Committing Sabotage On Russian Territory
*Russian Defence Ministry: Detachment Of Up To 30 Mercenaries From Polish Private Military Unit Has Been 'Liquidated' In Kharkiv Region
*Russian Defence Ministry: A Russian S-400 Surface-to-air Missile System Shot Down A Ukrainian MI-8 Helicopter That Attacked The Village Of Klimovo In Russia's Bryansk Region
*Russian Defence Ministry: A Military Target On The Edge Of Kyiv Was Hit With A Cruise Missile Last Night
*Russian Defence Ministry: Struck The 'Vizar' Plant Which Makes And Repairs Anti-Ship Missiles And Other Missiles
*Russian Defence Ministry: The Russian Armed Forces Successfully Destroyed The Ukrainian Tactical Missile Launcher "Tochka-U" In The Donetsk Region, A Temporary Deployment Point For A Formation Of Ukrainian Nationalists, Including Up To 20 Armored Vehicles And Up To 50 Nationalists
*Russian Defence Ministry: Russian Missile Forces Have Destroyed 221 Ukrainian Military Installations, Including 12 Command Posts, 176 Strongholds And Areas Where Enemy Manpower Is Concentrated, And 12 Artillery Firing Positions Have Been Suppressed

*Russian Foreign Ministry: Sweden And Finland Must Understand The Consequences Of Joining NATO On Bilateral Relations And The Security System
*Russian Foreign Ministry: If Sweden And Finland May Join NATO, It Will Adversely Affect The Stability Of Northern Europe
*Russian Foreign Ministry: Potential NATO Membership Is Unlikely To Boost The International Prestige Of Sweden And Finland
*Russian Foreign Ministry: (On The Prospect Of Sweden And Finland Joining NATO) The Choice Lies With The Governments Of These Countries

*European Central Bank's Governing Council Member Simkus Calls For EU Sanctions On Russian Oil, Gas
*Romania Suspends Military Mig-21 Flights, To Speed Up F-16 Purchase

*Ukraine Agriculture Ministry Ups 2022 Spring Sowing Area Forecast To 14 Million Hectares From Previous 13.4 Million Hectares
*Ukraine's Biggest Steelmaker Metinvest Tells Reuters That Ukraine Has More Than Halved Iron Ore Production Due To Russia's Invasion
*Metinvest: Steel Works In Besieged City Of Mariupol Are Not Operating, Meaning Ukraine Has Currently Lost Access To 30-40% Of Its Metallurgy Production Capacity

*Ukraine Defence Ministry Spokesman: For First Time Since Start Of Aggression, Russia Used Long-Range Bombers To Attack Mariupol
*Ukraine Defence Ministry Spokesman: Russia Is Concentrating Its Forces On Seizing Rubizhne, Popasna And Mariupol
*Ukraine Defence Ministry Spokesman: Situation In Mariupol Is Hard, Street Fighting Ongoing
*Ukraine Defence Ministry Spokesman: Active Fighting Ongoing Around Illich Steel And Iron Works, Mariupol's Port Area

*Russian Investigative Committee: More Than 1,000 Ukrainian Soldiers Who Surrendered Are Being Held In Russia
*Moscow Times Media Outlet: Site Has Been Blocked By Russian Communications Watchdog
*The Wife of Ukrainian Opposition Leader Dmitry Medvechuk Held a Press Conference, Saying That She Had Received Various Threats, Including Death Threats — RIA
*The Wife Of Ukrainian Opposition Leader Dmitry Medvechuk Held A Press Conference, Saying That She Did Not Know Where Her Husband Is So Far — RIA

*Russian President Aide Oreshkin: Russian Imports Fell By Tens Of Percent In March Due To Logistical Constraints And The Departure Of Western Companies
*Russian Presidential Press Secretary Peskov: Putin Wants To See Methodical Work Carried Out To To Widen The Use Of The Rouble For Energy Exports
*Russian Presidential Press Secretary Peskov: But It's Too Early To Talk Of Deadlines And Details

Past 3hrs:
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*Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: Wide-Scale Ban On Russian Energy To Lead To Record Prices
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*Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: Russia Awaiting Reaction Of Gas Buyers Amid Ruble Switch
*Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: German Residents Began To Hoard Firewood In Large Quantities
*Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: The Development Of The Global Economy And The Fuel And Energy Industries Is Impossible Without Considering Russia's Interests As A Leader In The Global Energy Industry
*Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: There Are Few Reasonable Alternatives To Russian Resources For The EU

*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Saw Record Demand For Cash Roubles This Year
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Had To Impose Forex Control Measures To Support Liquidity
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Aim To Preserve Market Pricing Principles, Market-Determined Rouble Exchange Rate
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Financial Sector And Economy Were In Good Shape Before Feb 24
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Many Companies Will Have To Find New Suppliers, New Logistics
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Sanctions Against Russia Will Have Negative Impact On Global Economy
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Ban On Operations With Central Bank, Russian Government Is Unprecedented
 
Tuppy_Glossop said:
Perhaps trying to drive the public mood?
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could be, they just always seem so sodding miserable, even when laughing.....i can't remember their names now but i recall watching a couple of russian twitch streamers playing Tarkov ages ago and even when they were obviously smiling and joking, there was still an air of utter miserableness from them :p
 
NickK said:
The tractor is a neat detail :D

Given the neptune is something like a 300km range weapon, that's pretty much 80% of the Black Sea targetable and by return, reduces the russian ship launched weapons available to long range only such as the russian P500 with 550km range. Large and expensive.. most of them were on the ship that sunk..
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when I saw that I had to post it, I think that farmer is the most famous farmer in the world, and those pictures would possibly be in history books.
 
I really think Putin is a bluffer and would never nuke. I would have thought sinking the flagship of the Black Sea fleet would have brought the wrath of Putin.

This war is going to go on for years by the looks of things.
 
Huge blow for Putin as China silently turns on Russia - major car brand pulled from sale
Antony Ashkenaz - 2h ago

Lifan, a major Chinese car brand, has ended its sales in Russia, as relationships between Beijing and Moscow appear to fray.
Lifan is the second-largest Chinese automobile manufacturer in Russia and was the largest Chinese automobile seller in Russia between 2014 and 2018.
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Huge blow for Putin as China silently turns on Russia - major car brand pulled from sale (msn.com)
 
kitfit1 said:
One thing is for sure, he won't be able to get another missile cruiser into the Black sea now. It would have to go through Istanbul................and that is not going to happen.
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It would be lol if we ever reached the point where the west were giving Ukraine old ships and Turkey were just letting them in xD
 
0007 said:
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Saw Record Demand For Cash Roubles This Year
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Had To Impose Forex Control Measures To Support Liquidity
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Aim To Preserve Market Pricing Principles, Market-Determined Rouble Exchange Rate
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Financial Sector And Economy Were In Good Shape Before Feb 24
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Many Companies Will Have To Find New Suppliers, New Logistics
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Sanctions Against Russia Will Have Negative Impact On Global Economy
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Ban On Operations With Central Bank, Russian Government Is Unprecedented
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Continuation:
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Accumulated Cash Forex, Which We Used
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We Are Still Concerned That Crypto Currency Can Be Contagious For Financial System
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: Notes Risks Related To Elevated Volatility On Crypto Currency Market
*Russian Central Bank Deputy Governor Yudayeva: We See Limited Options To Use Crypto Currencies To Avoid Restrictions Related To Sanctions
 
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