Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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I think Russia might be trying to create a fake narrative by building some concentration ("filtration") camps around Mariupol to falsely prove that Ukraine had done it in some pitiful attempt to re-enact the liberation of Auschwitz.
 
steve45 said:
Isnt it very odd that these low post count accounts seem to pop up in so often:rolleyes:
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Yet without proof you're just another conspiracy theorist, just as bad as flat earthers, COVID deniers and those that claim there are no Ukrainian Nazi's :rolleyes:
 
ianh said:
Yet without proof you're just another conspiracy theorist, just as bad as flat earthers, COVID deniers and those that claim there are no Ukrainian Nazi's :rolleyes:
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and yet on the flip side of that there are those that refer to any and all defenders in Mariupol as Nazis. Is that any fairer?
 
ianh said:
Yet without proof you're just another conspiracy theorist, just as bad as flat earthers, COVID deniers and those that claim there are no Ukrainian Nazi's :rolleyes:
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Far more worrying than any Ukrainian Nazis, is the amount of support the likes of Dugin have in Russia:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

The whole Russian professed reason for invading Ukraine is of course totally nonsense, but once anyone looks at the amount of extreme nationalism which has such widespread support in Russia, it really looks like to get at the truth of any Russian claim the easiest way is to assume the exact 180⁰ opposite of what they say, is closer to the truth and work from there.
 
sergei markov r4@1 suggest us/uk/nato were strongly involved in the ship destruction - still can't see why there are no drone photos from the ukrainaians,
nato probably wouldn't want to expose details of it's intelligence though, or how they may have helped ukrainians target it (sub ?)
Russians could still have scuttled it too, to save face.
 
jpaul said:
sergei markov r4@1 suggest us/uk/nato were strongly involved in the ship destruction - still can't see why there are no drone photos from the ukrainaians,
nato probably wouldn't want to expose details of it's intelligence though, or how they may have helped ukrainians target it (sub ?)
Russians could still have scuttled it too, to save face.
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the drones were miles away and a missile hit it, why would they have drone footage
 
jpaul said:
sergei markov r4@1 suggest us/uk/nato were strongly involved in the ship destruction - still can't see why there are no drone photos from the ukrainaians,
nato probably wouldn't want to expose details of it's intelligence though, or how they may have helped ukrainians target it (sub ?)
Russians could still have scuttled it too, to save face.
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I doubt Moskva would have been hard to find at all, what with that massive air search radar blasting out across the EM spectrum like a beacon. Plus it looks as though the ship had also been following a predictable patrol pattern, with their being satellite photos of her passing roughly the same spot on several different days.
 
arknor said:
the drones were miles away and a missile hit it, why would they have drone footage
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To add to that, drones dont always take video footage, its one of many possible means of data collection. However, there are multiple types of sensor packages for example EO/IR, SIGINT, RADAR. LIDAR, GMTI, and more.
 
200sols said:
Eh, well if it was Putin and his top team then yes. But it isn't is it. Mostly the people dying are just conscript cannon fodder that Putin doesnt care about.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ip-need-answers-relatives-missing-crew-russia

I don't think it is a laughing subject myself. So yeah good on Ukraine for fighting back but your comments are a bit crass for me.
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Those poor child raping, murdering conscripts. Won't somebody think about their feelings?
 
steve45 said:
To add to that, drones dont always take video footage, its one of many possible means of data collection. However, there are multiple types of sensor packages for example EO/IR, SIGINT, RADAR. LIDAR, GMTI, and more.
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The Chieftain has a good video - its all about context for this social media war
 
0007 said:
*Mayor Of Moscow: Moscow Authorities Are Ready To Support People Who Lose Jobs By Providing Training And Temporary And Socially-Important Work
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Thats Putin talk for a weeks weapons training and a new job on the front lines.
 
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