Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Dis86 said:
I love how the Russians keep saying we're weak and feeble, yet every time they suffer some sort of major embarrassment or setback they always blame us. The boogeyman!
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I seem to recall it being a classic fascist strategy for the state to define an enemy and then describe them as being both strong and weak as the situation requires.
 
Mr Badger said:
I seem to recall it being a classic fascist strategy for the state to define an enemy and then describe them as being both strong and weak as the situation requires.
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That’s just Fascist governments is it?
Seen the Umberto Eco quote.
Opponent being both a massive threat and being useless is used in pretty much every argument… from this very thread to Brexit to immigration etc.
 
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Custor said:
How accurate do nuclear bombs have to be?
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The B61-12 has an adjustable yield down to "just" the equivalent of 300 tons of explosive (0.3Kt) which would leave a very small blast area. For example if one was detonated at Big Ben then the windows at Buckingham Place wouldn't even break! So missing a target by just a few hundred meters can have a surprising effect which, considering the previous B61-11 version was upto 150m less accurate means the new guidance stuff now becomes fairly important. Obviously though, if its set to maximum yield of 50Kt the accuracy demands are reduced a bit :D

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This attack is quite interesting, if you scroll down from the above tweet there's some quoted footage posted in the comments from this account below, that actually shows an apparent marine drone in daylight being shot at by a helicopter...


Would be rather nice if they did put another ship or two out of action, great they've got this capability now.

It does seem odd the Russians seemingly don't have a better defence against this other than some helicopters shooting at the drones... like surely CIWS or similar on these ships would obliterate these marine drones if this were a Western Navy and failing that crew members on other weapon systems on deck + patrol boats with at least machine guns on board... but apparently not, these things were able to get right up to the Russian ships from what it looks like in the footage and then, seemingly, boom!

Will be interesting to find out what the damage was.

StriderX said:
Pretty sure the value is in the increased amount of fissile material being thrown out in the initial burst.
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That doesn't make any sense - there's the same amount of fissile material being thrown out whether it's GPS to the nearest sq meter accuracy or whether it's a bit less accurate than that. I think what @ianh has said is correct, you get more bang for your buck with smaller tactical nukes if you make them more accurate.
 
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dowie said:

This attack is quite interesting, if you scroll down from the above tweet there's some quoted footage posted in the comments from this account below, that actually shows an apparent marine drone in daylight being shot at by a helicopter...


Would be rather nice if they did put another ship or two out of action, great they've got this capability now.

It does seem odd the Russians seemingly don't have a better defence against this other than some helicopters shooting at the drones... like surely CIWS or similar on these ships would obliterate these marine drones if this were a Western Navy and failing that crew members on other weapon systems on deck + patrol boats with at least machine guns on board... but apparently not, these things were able to get right up to the Russian ships from what it looks like in the footage and then, seemingly, boom!

Will be interesting to find out what the damage was.



That doesn't make any sense - there's the same amount of fissile material being thrown out whether it's GPS to the nearest sq meter accuracy or whether it's a bit less accurate than that. I think what @ianh has said is correct, you get more bang for your buck with smaller tactical nukes if you make them more accurate.
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I was referring to small warheads explosive power not using up much of it's potential at all.
 
StriderX said:
I was referring to small warheads explosive power not using up much of it's potential at all.
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Nuclear weapons only use a small amount of the mass of the explosive core (1-2%), limiting it's power won't make a significant difference to the amount of fallout afterwards.
 
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