Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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A bit.

More that drones will be used extensively as a military weapon, which changes things in ways we can't yet understand.
For anyone who has seen the movie "Angel has fallen" it was a glimpse into future warfare.

That drone swarm in the movie is in a way currently at work in Ukraine.

You could weaponise cheap drones in their millions and with such huge swarms it would be almost impossible to defeat them

Low altitude, near silent until its to late, black on black at night the damage they could do to man and armour in high numbers would be considerable.

Drones are the future of war, Cruise missiles for long range will still bee needed but air defence is so good now not many get to target.
 
For anyone who has seen the movie "Angel has fallen" it was a glimpse into future warfare.

That drone swarm in the movie is in a way currently at work in Ukraine.

You could weaponise cheap drones in their millions and with such huge swarms it would be almost impossible to defeat them

Low altitude, near silent until its to late, black on black at night the damage they could do to man and armour in high numbers would be considerable.

Drones are the future of war, Cruise missiles for long range will still bee needed but air defence is so good now not many get to target.

Only a matter of time before they have some radar controlled weapon and a grape like round to counter them.
 
Only a matter of time before they have some radar controlled weapon and a grape like round to counter them.

Yeah, quadracopter style drones are surely pretty easy to design effective countermeasures against. They're relatively slow moving, can't be particularly armoured due to weight limitations, and are relatively easy to distinguish from other objects. Auto-targetting weapons designed to counter them will surely be developed pretty quickly - in fact, they're probably under development already. That doesn't mean drones won't have plenty of uses in combat situations, but I don't think they'll be game changing weapons against well equipped militaries.
 
It's a small village south of Bakhmut but looking at he location it gives the Russians access to the rail plus the local road network going either side of it. Depending on how vital will determine if Ukraine will counter attack or not but so long as they can keep chewing up Russian infantry there more likely to keep their forces held back to strike elsewhere.
 
Only a matter of time before they have some radar controlled weapon and a grape like round to counter them.

The ewar systems can be quite effective - one of the guys in the volunteers who uploads on YT was saying about 1/3rd of the time they were using drones the Russian jamming was rendering their use problematic and sometimes having to do missions to retrieve the expensive ones from dangerous areas due to loss of control and/or reduced signal range.
 
Sounds like it not only russian ammo supplies that could be getting low



US eyes long-range rockets for Ukraine as arms supplies dwindle​


The Pentagon is considering a proposal to supply Ukraine with cheap, small precision bombs fitted onto abundantly available rockets,
allowing Kyiv to strike far behind Russian lines as the West struggles to meet the demand for more weapons.

US and allied military inventories are shrinking, and Ukraine faces an increasing need for more sophisticated arms as the war drags on.

He said falling US inventories help explain the rush to get more arms now,
saying stockpiles are “getting low relative to the levels we like to keep on hand and certainly to the levels we’re going to need to deter a China conflict”.

 
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It's a small village south of Bakhmut but looking at he location it gives the Russians access to the rail plus the local road network going either side of it. Depending on how vital will determine if Ukraine will counter attack or not but so long as they can keep chewing up Russian infantry there more likely to keep their forces held back to strike elsewhere.
I saw that, a little worrying. But one village for the sake of how many men? good lord.

I did see a video - but haven't watched it yet - about why Bakhmut is so important to the Russians.


Off to watch it now...
 
I saw that, a little worrying. But one village for the sake of how many men? good lord.

I did see a video - but haven't watched it yet - about why Bakhmut is so important to the Russians.

I think they are glossing over the importance to Russia of the road and rail links at Bakhmut, despite not being major relative to the full range of infrastructure hubs and/or there being other nearby cities with more extensive transport infrastructure - its position relative to the Russian logistics efforts and the kind of way they approach logistics is quite pivotal and without it they would really struggle pushing into that region in general any way.

There is a good point in the video that Bakhmut shields some high value command and control centres for Ukraine - but Bakhmut isn't the only way for Russia to bring those into artillery range, though it is one of the best options.

Bakhmut was an important hub of Ukraine's war efforts awhile back but I imagine they've mitigated that now.

There is also high ground on what would be the Ukrainian side if Russia did capture it - I wouldn't want to be in a defensive posture in the city if I was Russian.
 
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Russia has moved 24 bombers at Engels. If somehow Ukraine could hit that base now, it would prevent a lot of these strikes because it's a very significant portion of their long range bombers in one place at the same time

 
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On the bright side, the fact that Russia keeps launching more and more missiles at once means they are not really achieving their strategic goals, which mean Ukrainian air defence is doing a decent job.

When these long range big missile volleys started flying towards Ukraine's electrical infrastructure they were firing around 40 each time, then it became 70, then most recently 100 and now it looks like they are preparing a 200 missile attack.
 
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