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Why would they be supporting russia? The last I checked Chechnya doesn't like Putin.... not that Ukraine needs a load of Islamists in their country.
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Why would they be supporting russia? The last I checked Chechnya doesn't like Putin.... not that Ukraine needs a load of Islamists in their country.
Soldato
It was the plan to go in there, remove the government, put a new one in and then proclaim they have liberated the people. They expected to see Ukrainians welcome them with open arms or at least fear to resist. It wouldn’t have been good PR if he had gone in and flattened the cities whilst saying we are friends/brothers etc. Now he has shutdown the media coverage I expect it’s going to go that way but this will turn into a long drawn out conflict with even greater losses for Putin. He is making the same assumption that he can make people do something out of fear. Once Ukraine pull through this I could see them joining the EU and receiving a lot of funds to rebuild.
Soldato
Ohhh and it's utterly shamefull how many Russia/Putin appologist we have here
Some people are being a bit more realistic with the situation where others are posting hopeful messages, neither one is wrong but i have not seen a single poster who is pro Putin.
They would never have invaded the UK, just turn it to glass.
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If he didn't expect any resistance he would not have taken an army there.
We can hope Ukraine pull through this but I don't see it happening.
LOL, Russia cannot win.
Soldato
I don’t think he expected the entire population to turn against him. He absolutely thought he could take out the government and that would be it.
Soldato
That was the USSR in a nutshell. Nobody wanted or could vote for the government they were dealt. And now the **** wants it back. The police would be replaced as necessary with bully boys and political officers to control the population.The thing i don't understand is that Putin wants to put his own government in there to take over. But they won't be wanted because they didn't want to be pro Russian to begin with and now the Russians are physically attacking them they'll want to be ruled by them even less! This goes for the Ukranian Police and Army too. Does he think they'll just carry on working for the new Government he puts in? From how they've acted so far i very much doubt it. So that leaves him with having to leave a huge Russian force to keep control of the capital for example because if it ever left the country they will just throw them out and start again with a government they do want. It's such a mess.
Interesting and also frightening. Literally just heard on the news (radio some ex diplomat, was cooking for the kids so didn't catch the name
The Russian troops had pulled back to defensive positions and requested arty/airstrikes to soften up the targets. Arty systems don't have a massive range 20-30km with only the rockets having a longer range. So 12-18 miles max means they need to be in a safe position (ie behind the defensive positions) to fire from and free from counter fire. Otherwise they'd not be able to setup for a continuous bombardment with logistics lines coming in. Given the capital is a 33km across they need to be close enough to shell into the city.
Wow you really are a Russia lover aren’t you, they wouldn’t stand a chance against NATO, the invasion of Ukraine has proved that
Their families would probably be at risk if they did that.
There will still be a lot of pro Russian in the Ukranian population.
Not a majority, by a long way, but to say the entire population is against Russia is plain wrong.
Soldato
The absolute vast majority are against. This is a very odd post…
The thing i don't understand is that Putin wants to put his own government in there to take over. But they won't be wanted because they didn't want to be pro Russian to begin with and now the Russians are physically attacking them they'll want to be ruled by them even less! This goes for the Ukranian Police and Army too. Does he think they'll just carry on working for the new Government he puts in? From how they've acted so far i very much doubt it. So that leaves him with having to leave a huge Russian force to keep control of the capital for example because if it ever left the country they will just throw them out and start again with a government they do want. It's such a mess.
Or Putin wants to displace the Ukrainians completely as refugees leaving the country only full of loyal Russians..
Caporegime
But with the knowledge it would be guaranteeing Russia would be raised to the ground.
this im interested to know too. I hear all different answers/projections and theories that china would just be a proxy for their payments etc. i have no idea.
Exactly and this is why it has and most likely never happen unless we get PM Corbyn and he ditches trident.
Soldato
They are already at the capital, once that goes down and Russia installs its own pro Russian puppet government then all this western support will stop.
The Ukraine people will be on their own, no hero leader, no army, no western support....pretty much forgotten about.
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