Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[TheMightyTen]

Cambridge is a little too close for comfort to St Peterboroughsberg

Particularly with US "surgical" bombing

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

I think Putin has got what he wanted now, access to the sea and they blew up the dam to get the water supply back

Which dam did they blow?

 

[phil-k]

Particularly with US "surgical" bombing

Thats ok they they will just hit their Lakenheath and Mildenhall bases, it will save the Russians doing it

 

[StriderX]

The Russians are looking for a quick way out. They are dangling a carrot so that they can call this 'special operation' a win. Ukraine shouldn't agree to their terms, the Russians are already backed into a corner with their logistical issues

Ukraine's only hope was that either the government in Moscow changed or they'd enacted such pain that Moscow searched for a way out whilst being able to justify their actions.

If Ukraine continues to hollow out Russia's military and global image, Moscow will eventually resort to scorched earth tactics which any sensible government would acknowledge isn't worth it over the lesser pain of a compromise. To caveat, if the compromise is essentially the destruction of Ukraine through other means then it's obviously not going to be agreed to.

 

[Mr Jack]

Which dam did they blow?

Crimea gets it water from a channel diverting water from Ukraine. After Russia annexed Crimea, the Ukrainian's dammed the channel so that they get more water for their fields, but Russia has had to ship water to Crimea as a result.

 

[phil-k]

Which dam did they blow?

The headline was "Russian forces blowing up Dnieper dam built by Ukrainians. Securing Crimeas agricultural and civil water supply.", They did this at the start of the War, nothing seems to have been mentioned of it since

 

[DrToffnar]

Totally agree. Being in the right doesn't help much if you're dead.

Same. That's what being a leader is about, making the decisions that sometimes seem bizarre to others but safeguard the lives of your citizens first and foremost. He'll probably be hated for it by some of his own people, but he may have saved them in the long term. You can't make peace with your friends.

 

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* 'Three weeks into the invasion, Russian troops have been halted at the gates of Kyiv, having taken heavy losses and failed to seize any of Ukraine's biggest cities in a war Western officials say Moscow thought it would win within days.'
* 'Zelenskiy said Ukrainian troops had killed a fourth Russian major general in the latest fighting. Reuters was not immediately able to verify his statement.'
* "The enemy lost equipment, hundreds more soldiers. A lot of dead Russian conscripts, dozens of officers."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...uk-says-russian-forces-struggling-2022-03-16/

Nice RTRS post that summarizes everything that's going on right now.

 

[steve45]

I think Putin has got what he wanted now, access to the sea

They already had that with annexing Crimea, also they already have strategic ports on the black sea (Novorossiysk) and Sea of Azov (Rostov on Don

 

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*Holder of Russia Government Dollar Bonds With Coupons Due Today Says Hasn’t Had Confirmation of Payment So Far

*Russia: Eurobond Coupon Payment Might Not Reach Bondholders – RIA
https://twitter.com/C_Barraud/status/1504068733962178568

'Drugmaker Merck and Co said on Wednesday it would not make further investments in Russia, but continue to supply life-saving medicines and vaccines to the country.
https://www.reuters.com/business/he...a-will-supply-essential-medicines-2022-03-16/

 

[BUDFORCE]

Now that's what I call levelling up, Peterborough can't get any worse

I'm about 8.5 miles away from the city as the crow flies, if the US bomb it, Russia are less likely to nuke it, so my chances increase dramatically.

Win win in my book lol.

 

[dcsarge]

I know you put /jk but it is an interesting point. About as useful as reading the ingredients on the back of Worcestershire sauce though. You can't just mix a vat up and expect the same results.

No absolutely not. There was an interesting article somewhere after the U.S lost that F35 in the South China Sea about the topic. The fact being they probably already have the full technical info but it's not the same as having a actual unit with firmware/software to find out how the whole package works together.

 

[Harlequin]

Taiwan best approach would be to order 1 million NLAW for any Chinese invasion

 

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*Rep. Adam Smith, Armed Services Cmte Chairman, Speaks on CNN
*Rep. Adam Smith: We Must Figure Out Way to Get Ukraine More Drones
https://twitter.com/DefenseBaron/status/1504070271531114499

*German Govt Spokesperson Says Govt Strongly Against Presence of NATO Personnel in Ukraine
https://twitter.com/zerohedge/status/1504072424064786436

'Italy has seized a building complex on the Mediterranean island of Sardinia owned by Russian businessman Petr Olegovich Aven, Prime Minister Mario Draghi's office said on Wednesday.'
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...y-belonging-russian-oligarch-aven-2022-03-16/
'Ukraine above all needs more supplies of weapons to defend itself against Russia's invasion, Czech Prime Minister Petr Fiala said on Wednesday after returning from a visit to Kyiv.'
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...aine-above-all-needs-more-weapons-2022-03-16/

 

[Chuk_Chuk]

@Mr Jack and @phil-k Thank you, I vaguely remember hearing something about that.

 

[Goksly]

The price of not compromising is too high. Thousands are dying daily, and the cost of reconstruction goes up all the time. Thus Ukraine will compromise, because the alternative is unacceptable.

They compromised on Crimea. If they didn't, this wouldn't be happening now.

 

[Amnesia]

I love how they keep demanding demilitarisation - in other words we want to try this again and not be defeated. How can any country thats failed to invade demand the invaded country give up its military capabilities. The only time that works is when you have won.

How can you claim failure while it is in progress?

 

[Mr Jack]

They compromised on Crimea. If they didn't, this wouldn't be happening now.

If they hadn't, they wouldn't have had the 8 years since to develop their military into a force that can bloody Russia's nose. Ukraine had no choice on Crimea because they had no ability to kick Russia out of Crimea.

 

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*Exec. VP EU Commission Dombrovskis: EU to Redistribute Steel Quotas Between Russia and Belarus.
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32022R0434&from=EN
https://twitter.com/VDombrovskis/status/1504075142036697090 - We've ramped up EU sanctions and will ban some steel imports from Russia & Belarus. // But we must also avoid steel supply shortages in the EU & support our industry.

 

[alchal]

It's reassuring to know that should Putin invade, the US are in position to instantly respond by bombing Peterborough.

Lol in a way.

However they are used to launch cruise missiles so will stay out of theatre by quite a bit, they don't actually fly over the target and drop bombs.