Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

Amnesia · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:38

Uther said:
I'm sure they'll go home to once the Russians have left. Haven't you been calling for the Ukranians to give up since the start?

Yes I didn't want this war to happen.
I wanted Ukraine to agree not to join NATO to avoid the war.

This was Putins original complaint and why he threatened Ukraine with military action.

ianh · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:38

koolpc said:
You are another Russian i see!

So "Russian" in fact that I've taken part in 3 wars as part of the UK's armed forces. Now, what have you done again, other than demand that every Ukrainian fights to death from the safety of your keyboard?

FlapR · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:41

Arnie's youtube video is fantastic, but that's expect from him. The guy is special.

Amnesia · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:41

koolpc said:
I think Amnesia is posting from inside the Kremlin!

Nope not a soldier.

You will always find my stance the same, I'm fairly anti-war and certainly anti-invasion.

Twinz · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:41

Amnesia said:
Yes I didn't want this war to happen.
I wanted Ukraine to agree not to join NATO to avoid the war.

This was Putins original complaint and why he threatened Ukraine with military action.

Wait, I thought it was just a training exercise?

koolpc · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:43

ianh said:
So "Russian" in fact that I've been in 3 wars as part of the UK's armed forces, Now, what have you done again, other than demand that every Ukrainian fights to death from the safety of your keyboard because you are angry?

Being in the armed forces doesnt mean you know anything pal.

I aint angry. I just think that Ukraine should stand their ground. Not roll over like you want them to do. Fight the evil, mentally disturbed aggressor, not run like you are wanting.

The world didnt roll over when hitler came knocking!

Amnesia · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:45

Twinz said:
Wait, I thought it was just a training exercise?

It was until it wasn't.

Rroff · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:45

Amnesia said:
Nope not a soldier.

You will always find my stance the same, I'm fairly anti-war and certainly anti-invasion.

Despite the impression some might get I'm very anti-war, but anti-war needs to be mixed with a healthy dose of reality and pragmatism - taking any chance to end a war isn't necessarily the right thing to do in the longer run even though the situation right now might be atrocious and unconscionable.

FlapR · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:45

Amnesia said:
Yes I didn't want this war to happen.
I wanted Ukraine to agree not to join NATO to avoid the war.

This was Putins original complaint and why he threatened Ukraine with military action.

They applied years ago, am I missing something or are you just simple?

bris · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:46

Amnesia said:
Yes I didn't want this war to happen.
I wanted Ukraine to agree not to join NATO to avoid the war.

This was Putins original complaint and why he threatened Ukraine with military action.

Absolute nonsense, Putin wanted Ukrain back in his pocket, under his control. Nothing was stopping this war.

koolpc · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:47

bris said:
Absolute nonsense, Putin wanted Ukrain back in his pocket, under his control. Nothing was stopping this war.

Agreed

Amnesia · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:54

bris said:
Absolute nonsense, Putin wanted Ukrain back in his pocket, under his control. Nothing was stopping this war.

Ok at the start I claimed Ukraine not joining NATO was key and if Ukraine agreed this could end the war.

Some others had a different view and said that Putin will not stop until he takes over Ukraine.

Currently the peace plans key point is that Ukraine not join NATO, there is no hand over the keys to your country clause in there.

You can make excuses and say you saw a twitter post which claimed 10,000 Russian soldiers die each day and that Russia does not have any tanks left as they have all been destroyed.
But it is Ukraine that keeps pushing for the peace talks and not Russia, not that I disagree with what Zelensky is doing.

sanaxe1 · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:55

bris said:
Absolute nonsense, Putin wanted Ukrain back in his pocket, under his control. Nothing was stopping this war.

It's best to ignore Amnesia he's been wrong since his first post in this thread.

FlapR · 17 Mar 2022 at 23:56

Amnesia said:
Ok at the start I claimed Ukraine not joining NATO was key and if Ukraine agreed this could end the war.

Some others had a different view and said that Putin will not stop until he takes over Ukraine.

Currently the peace plans key point is that Ukraine not join NATO, there is no hand over the keys to your country clause in there.

You can make excuses and say you saw a twitter post which claimed 10,000 Russian soldiers die each day and that Russia does not have any tanks left as they have all been destroyed.
But it is Ukraine that keeps pushing for the peace talks and not Russia, not that I disagree with what Zelensky is doing.

So it would all be over if Ukraine agreed not to join NATO? :cry:

EddScott · 18 Mar 2022 at 00:01

FlapR said:
Arnie's youtube video is fantastic, but that's expect from him. The guy is special.

Agreed. Worth a watch for those that haven't.

Amnesia · 18 Mar 2022 at 00:05

sanaxe1 said:
It's best to ignore Amnesia he's been wrong since his first post in this thread.

Quote it and tell me which part of it is wrong.

Twinz · 18 Mar 2022 at 00:06

Amnesia said:
It was until it wasn't.

You said he was threatening them because they might join NATO. Putin specifically said he wasn't a threat...he said it was just an exercise.

If you are not trolling, you have lost touch with reality, or your screen name is decidedly not random.

Scougar · 18 Mar 2022 at 00:08

Ah, more pointless bickering. /Rolleyes.

Sounds like there is possibility that part of Ukrainian army may get cut off near Mariaupol (sorry if I spelt that wrong.)

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Amnesia · 18 Mar 2022 at 00:10

Twinz said:
You said he was threatening them because they might join NATO. Putin specifically said he wasn't a threat...it was just an exercise.

He had previously threatened Ukraine with military action unless they agreed not to join nato, this is quite some time before the invasion.