Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[NickK]

Interesting:

If Putin was thinking beyond Ukraine they'd need that tank production running over-time and probably add 2-3 manufacturers to it.

Their largest car manufacturer also had to halt production. That effects logistics vehicles, farming vehicles and those used to maintain the oil/gas infrastructure.

How do you bring in the crops or repair your revenue generating oil and gas infrastructure?

Also you could be asking - can Putin afford the additional tanks if he's propping up the economy?

Putin may have miscalculated the depth of impact on food and revenue generation - possibly needing to go cap in hand to China to get new equipment, destroying the Russian manufacturing industry and China then ends up "silk roading" into Russia. China needs that food too and is playing a risky game (unlike china).

Politically the loss of manufacturing to China may play against Putin politically. Putin wins the battle (ie Ukrain) but looses the war - the control of Russia but not to the West but to the East.

 

[Sankari]

Do you have independent figures or are those from the Russian 'elections'?

Both sets of figures are independent, not from the Russian 'elections.'

The figures cited here are from the Levada Centre, an independent, nongovernmental Russian polling agency.

The figures cited here are from Russian Field, another independent Russian research group.

Russian support for Putin soared above 80% when he invaded Crimea. Russians love this ****, they can't get enough of it. As long as Putin is trying to steal land from Eastern Europe, they'll lap it up like free vodka.

 

[BananaDunka]

You mean "tiny minority" there


If the "vast majority" of the population went on protest it would have been the end of this. It also would have been insane to see

You mean "tiny minority" there


If the "vast majority" of the population went on protest it would have been the end of this. It also would have been insane to see

The news videos showing the protests in St Petersburg alone looked like large crowds protesting with many being arrested. Granted nobody can confirm official numbers because those won't ever come out, but they have confirmed from those protests many thousands have been arrested/detained - From 2 weeks ago: https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...r-protests-russia-protest-monitor-2022-03-06/

 

[Clearcut]

If the support for the war in Russia has risen, it's a strange country that isn't fazed by the return of a potential 15,000 body bags.

 

[Concrete]

Also going on about Russia running out of food is a bit rich given the situation the EU is currently in with looking at boating grain in from the US at massive expense.

 

[NickK]

Both sets of figures are independent, not from the Russian 'elections.'

The figures cited here are from the Levada Centre, an independent, nongovernmental Russian polling agency.

The figures cited here are from Russian Field, another independent Russian research group.

Russian support for Putin soared above 80% when he invaded Crimea. Russians love this ****, they can't get enough of it. As long as Putin is trying to steal land from Eastern Europe, they'll lap it up like free vodka.

When asked about VTsIOM management change during his visit to Columbia University in the United States in September 2003, Russian president Vladimir Putin was supportive of the change in management.[10] Levada reportedly claimed that Putin disrupted at least three attempts to convince him that his approval rating is considerably lower than widely reported.[6

The change was to put a guy that worked in the state library into control of the centre. Previously it was on the kremlin's Hitlist for being outspoken and being "foreign controlled" through the funding.

Russian field I can't find any details on their ownership, given it's a private company is a bit odd.

 

[Mikey]

Putin is a disgusting corrupt warm criminal. Hope he is ill and a slow a degrading death.

 

[Mr Jack]

Both sets of figures are independent, not from the Russian 'elections.'

Do you think any polling agency in Russia is really independent?

 

[NickK]

Also going on about Russia running out of food is a bit rich given the situation the EU is currently in with looking at boating grain in from the US at massive expense.

Russia is unlikely to run out of crops, it *is* likely to run out of capability to harvest thus a knock on effect wrt food products made from it and foodstuffs for livestock.

"A bit rich"? That doesn't make sense to compare EU and Russia in this context. It is an observation that lack of parts will impact agriculture and industry.

 

[Mr Jack]

Don't worry boys Bobby's got this!

If those are Civ IV hours, fair enough, but if he notched them up playing dumbed down V and VI then he's kidding himself.

 

[delta0]

Also going on about Russia running out of food is a bit rich given the situation the EU is currently in with looking at boating grain in from the US at massive expense.

India are stepping up https://www.reuters.com/world/india...export-market-left-by-ukraine-war-2022-03-15/

 

[Terminal_Boy]

If the support for the war in Russia has risen, it's a strange country that isn't fazed by the return of a potential 15,000 body bags.

That amount of dead Russian troops was referred to as “an average Tuesday” during the battle of Stalingrad.

 

[garnett]

Also gets the NLAW field tested against russian armour basically for free.

Yes, I was thinking this. What a golden opportunity for the West's warhawks. They must be thrilled to be gathering so much data about the Russian military from this, at such a low cost.

Also, I read about regions of Russia that have been agitating (to a greater or lessor degree) for independence. (Can't find that article now - answers gratefully received). I wonder whether any efforts are being made to encourage them to take advantage of this moment?

 

[Sankari]

The change was to put a guy that worked in the state library into control of the centre. Previously it was on the kremlin's Hitlist for being outspoken and being "foreign controlled" through the funding.

Russian field I can't find any details on their ownership, given it's a private company is a bit odd.

Last year, Levada released a poll showing that public trust in Putin had dropped from 71% (September 2017) to 53% (October 2021). That's not the kind of message you'd be putting out if you were a government puppet.

Do you think any polling agency in Russia is really independent?

Yes. I also believe there are independent journalists in Russia who tell the truth, even if it kills them.

If the support for the war in Russia has risen, it's a strange country that isn't fazed by the return of a potential 15,000 body bags.

Life is cheap in Russia.

 

[arknor]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1506057591721537536

Sounds quite ominous

what a load of crap.

just get microsoft, amazon or some other massive american company to use their datacentres and see how quickly Russia gets taking offline... you could probably DDOS the whole country

if they want to play with hackers and viruses then someone should remind them what happened to Iran.... and China wouldn't be happy if the economy of the world gets disrupted no doubt.


If everyone started pulling out of China now they would blame Russia for sure... countries should just go ahead and do it.

oh wait I'm supposed to be a putin fanboy according to most people whom ever replied to me in this thread....

Yea I'm sure Russia has massive computational power at it's fingertips and huge datacentres probably running windows 98
no one could ever hack Russia in return they have some fibre curtain in place traffic only goes one way

 

[PlacidCasual]

Bill Roggio: Who is really winning the war in Ukraine? - The Post (unherd.com)

Another interesting video on Unherd discussing the Russian advance. I don't know the credentials of the "expert" but I generally find Unherd to be a opinion site with some rigour.

 

[bingham67]

Nearly a month into this war now I wonder how long its going to last?

 

[arknor]

Nearly a month into this war now I wonder how long its going to last?

+2 months atleast

by that time maybe a few ukranians will have been accepted into Britain. ...

how longs the scheme been open for now? I've not heard of a single one being invited over yet...

 

[Curlyriff]

Yes they do want war. If they were genuinely passionate about opposing the war, they'd brave the authorities and protest anyway, like people do in other oppressive nations. The incredibly low turnout reflects strong Russian support for the war.

Bull, if you are likely to be taken away and a mum and leave your children on their own then what? If your husband is unfortunately in the military because they have to serve but don't want too then what, he could well have issues. If you have a job and you don't want to loose it because you are arrested then what? How short sighted do you have to be to suggest that they should all just go out there and protest. We've seen people arrested for holding a blank sign!

 

[alchal]

And it’s half dozen SU57s and all it’s other super duper weapons, you know the ones Russia were holding back so not to show NATO it’s true capability, how can people not see Russia is basically a bluffing poker player with just a high card

China must be wondering how much of thier crap have they have copied that's actually any good.