Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Soldato
probably very true
yea there's no issue folks discussing, and guessing. but it's when the usual suspects are framing their opinions as facts or allude or having knowledge over and above what they just looked up on wikipedia it becomes a bit weird and cringey!
Soldato
It's called general discussion and if you feel someone is wrong you can, ya know, discuss it.
I see with many of my peers now that people don't want a debate, they don't want different points of view, they just want to be told what they want to hear. People subdivide their news sources, political parties and the people they like listening to on social media until they are in their own little echo chamber.
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you've missed my point (or i may not have articulated it very well, apologies if that is the case) - i've no issue with discussion and debate etc. i'm always more than happy to listen to opposing views (when they aren't a load of obviously made up guff
)my 'moan' is with the small number of individuals who regularly appear and set themselves up as some sort of authority on a particular subject (or rather on any subject)
don't mistake me recognizing a small number of posters for what they are with not wanting debate or discussion.
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Caporegime
Oh man, I hope this is true:
God's not on your side, bitches.
God's not on your side, bitches.
Soldato
If you read the forums a lot you'll realise there's quite a mixed bag. So not just little boys but some very knowledgeable and involved individuals who are willing to divulge their expert opinions on matters. It doesn't take a General to be an expert. In fact, Generals are far from experts and are, y'know, generalists who rely on their experts to advise them in their decision making process.the whole thread is full of little boys playing soldier (or wiki warrior or just make believe) so must have been half term since the special operation started
Nah, some Russian sailor probably sold it years ago.
Soldato
i do read the forums a lot and do realise there's quite a mixed bag. i also know there's some very knowledgeable people on the forums in general (much less so in threads like this for obvious reasons) but the ones seemingly prepared to go on and on are the same old names that pop up as experts in multiple threads.
admittedly i was being a bit over dramatic when i said the thread was 'full' of little boys. i concede that's a little unfair. however i still stand by my statement that there are a hardcore group of individuals who seem to roam from thread to thread positioning themselves as experts on any given issue when they clearly aren't.
Excuse me, armchair experting is a hard and thankless job.
Soldato
I see with many of my peers now that people don't want a debate, they don't want different points of view, they just want to be told what they want to hear. People subdivide their news sources, political parties and the people they like listening to on social media until they are in their own little echo chamber.
you've missed my point (or i may not have articulated it very well, apologies if that is the case) - i've no issue with discussion and debate etc. i'm always more than happy to listen to opposing views (when they aren't a load of obviously made up guff
my 'moan' is with the small number of individuals who regularly appear and set themselves up as some sort of authority on a particular subject (or rather on any subject)
don't mistake me recognizing a small number of posters for what they are with not wanting debate or discussion.
I do not know why people like to live in an echo chamber, however equally, there is not much use for debate in the majority of issues, its just procrastination and a waste of time.
I can give you an opposing view, but i dont think you will be happy to listen to it, nobody ever is, they call me a madman.
Soldato
I know what you mean. I don't mind it though, some of it makes for good entertainment
You would think that God would be more active in stopping tens of thousands of men, women and children being slaughtered in the war than showing what side he favours by putting a tiny piece of wood to the sea floor. Doesnt seem like a particularly caring God to me
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apologies my post you quoted was incorrectly formatted - i most definitely do not want to live in an echo chamber.
Soldato
and yet some have become quite adept at it
Soldato
oh yea, it's defo entertaining, hell it's even addictive reading sometimes!I know what you mean. I don't mind it though, some of it makes for good entertainment
Numbers suggesting only 50-60 sailors made it off before she went down. Also reports saying the captain was killed / went down with the ship.
Did you make that up or did you read it somewhere
I wonder what's actually happened to Admiral Osipov? Would have been the highest ranking officer killed if he didn't survive the evacuation (though somehow I doubt he was with his flagship) which the Kremlin would do anything to avoid highlighting.
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