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I certainly see some risk of LePen, is probably not high, but the risk is similar to the Bernie Bros in the US not voting for say Biden as their guy lost and enabling eg Trump.

Unfortunately the lack of actual far right politicians near any power for generations has meant that what they are and actually represent is easy to gloss over. Typically as said they are fascist and almost always authoritarian.
It would certainly strain some of the european cohesiveness if she was to be elected. However outside the headline stuff, much like our Brexiteer government the reality when they actually get power will be less fearful than those opposed would worry.

Typically in the UK the people who think she would be a good thing are the fairly extreme Brexiters, Trump supporters. They tend to like breaking things in the hope someone will put them back together in a way that suits them.
 
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She is a fascist authoritarian. She has softened her public message over the years in desperate attempts to get elected but she is the same person underneath. Like other such leaders they look up to Putin and see him as a natural ally. She is the Oswald Mosely of France. It would be a disaster for Europe and the EU if she was to get elected. Fortunately she won't.


I seem to recall similar self assurances about Donald Trump and the pending result of the leave the EU referendum from the SC gang :) And by the way, the name was Mosley.

What are the odds on a re-election of Mr. Trump in 2024?
 
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I've never understood why anyone would welcome an authoritarian government, it seems completely crazy to want someone to control the way you think and what you can do.
 
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We've basically had that for the last two years.

I have no love for the Tories but to say that we live under a fascist, authoritarian government is quite frankly ridiculous.
Yes, some members for the government display authoritarian tendencies - looking at you Mrs Patel - but they are a far cry from people like Edrogen, Putin, Lukashenko et al.
 
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I seem to recall similar self assurances about Donald Trump and the pending result of the leave the EU election from the SC gang :) And by the way, the name was Mosley.

What are the odds on a re-election of Mr. Trump in 2024?

The US has a completely different system to France. France uses the popular vote, if the US used the same system Trump would never have been elected. Brexit vote was close, in the end the leave vote ran a better campaign and its so much easier to run a negative campaign than a positive one.

French voters will bloody Macron's nose but he will win the run off. Good thing as well as Le Pen is in Putin's pocket.
 
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French voters will bloody Macron's nose but he will win the run off. Good thing as well as Le Pen is in Putin's pocket.

It's not that straight forward as her just liking Putin. The French banks refused to allow her party National Rally (maybe her as well) from holding a bank account. The only place she could get one was in Russia. So if another country is helping you out to that extent there is going to be a connection there. The banks refusing accounts have also happened here for people of different political ideologies. Gordon Brown was supposed to bring in a law to force banks to provide basic bank accounts for any citizen who wants one. But it never happened.

People will vote for Le Pen for the same reason many voted for Macron, as a protest.

Lets get back to the subject of this thread. There is already a French election thread.
 
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The US has a completely different system to France. France uses the popular vote, if the US used the same system Trump would never have been elected. Brexit vote was close, in the end the leave vote ran a better campaign and its so much easier to run a negative campaign than a positive one.

French voters will bloody Macron's nose but he will win the run off. Good thing as well as Le Pen is in Putin's pocket.

You say that because you completely lack critical thinking, campaigning for the election and how spending is targeted is also based on the fact it's not a popular vote. If it had been a popular vote then we can say the results would be different, but we can't say Trump wouldn't have won because how elections are fought affects the outcome a lot. That includes holding election rallies, sending people door to door, local TV campaigns, radio interviews, etc.
 
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The least surprising news of all.
Don't underestimate the far right. There are a lot of under the counter racists out there who come out to play when the ballots are secret..

Just look at America, Trump is a Putin fanatic and half of America is with him all the way. Trump shouts build a wall and the hate is no longer needed to be hidden. The presedential candidate is a racist so why hide it anymore.

With le pen and God forbid trump in power then Nato is *****d

Le Pen is in a run off, France can go either way.

Trumo if he gets to run is almost a sure thing.
 
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Don't underestimate the far right. There are a lot of under the counter racists out there who come out to play when the ballots are secret..

Just look at America, Trump is a Putin fanatic and half of America is with him all the way. Trump shouts build a wall and the hate is no longer needed to be hidden. The presedential candidate is a racist so why hide it anymore.

With le pen and God forbid trump in power then Nato is *****d

Le Pen is in a run off, France can go either way.

Trumo if he gets to run is almost a sure thing.

Almost not a single word of this post has any basis in reality. Some weird beginning where you talk about racists as if they're witches. Then you decide Trump is a Putin fanatic based on the fact he was complimentary towards him. I know it's beyond your ability to understand but Trump followed a clear pattern of appearing friendly towards people who were hostile towards America, that included North Korea and Russia, he was hostile towards Iran and China because he was unhappy with the trade deals he was getting from them, and he was also hostile towards NATO because he was similarly unhappy with the "deal" America was getting from NATO. He was also unhappy that Germany was essentially having it's defence spending subsidised by America while they were buying so much oil from Russia, they weren't meeting their 2% agreed defence spending. Trump didn't want "rid" of NATO, he wanted people to pay their fair share, that seems *very* reasonable for an American President responsible for how his countries tax dollars are being spent.

This "hate" you see around the Southern border is because thousands of people were entering the country illegally, it's not "hate" to expect your countries borders are intact and secure, surely? Isn't that just a basic requirement? Imagine if people landed in the UK and we had no passport control. America has thousands of miles of border to control, they don't have the luxury of a large body of water, they have to secure and Police a long border neighbouring a region of the world that has countries that have incredibly dangerous drug cartels and world leading murder rates. This isn't "hate" and it isn't racism.

Your entire post is trash and belongs in the bin.
 
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