Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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The producer of the Bayraktar TB2 UAVs will donate 3 drones to the Ukrainian Armed Forces for free after a successful crowdfunding campaign.

People discussing that they are pretty ineffective now in the war, at the start Russia had little air defence up but they soon worked out how to deal with them.

Don't really see any combat videos of them now, only used for video footage.
 
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It feels like this whole thing has taken a horrid turn for the worse. A couple of months ago when this all started, Ukraine was doing really well, Russia were taking a beating and basically being humiliated.
No they were not, not even close. You just fell for the bs that was being spewed.

All sorts of rubbish claims were being made, so many were believing there was a Ukrainian pilot that could take out a whole Russian fleet on his own.
That Russia was out of artillery yet so many months later it's still landing in Ukraine.
That Russia was losing in excess of 2000 vehicles per month.
That Russia has hardly any army left as their losses were so high.

Yet none ever bothered to look at the map to see that Russia is gaining ground, they never could explain that one.
 
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People discussing that they are pretty ineffective now in the war, at the start Russia had little air defence up but they soon worked out how to deal with them.

Don't really see any combat videos of them now, only used for video footage.
What I've read dosnt agree with that statement. they are just being more careful with how they are used. This is also a growing trend, Ukraine are being more smart with how their kit is being deployed and used, and also how it is reported on, they have paid dearly by over publicising, opsec and the press taking liberties with reporting. I would say they are just as effective, its just that TTP's are evolving.
 
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No they were not, not even close. You just fell for the bs that was being spewed.

All sorts of rubbish claims were being made, so many were believing there was a Ukrainian pilot that could take out a whole Russian fleet on his own.
That Russia was out of artillery yet so many months later it's still landing in Ukraine.
That Russia was losing in excess of 2000 vehicles per month.
That Russia has hardly any army left as their losses were so high.

Yet none ever bothered to look at the map to see that Russia is gaining ground, they never could explain that one.

More delusion, you do seem to have Amnesia, Russians were close to Kyiv, much closer to Kharkiv a few weeks ago, they had to flee from the North, were pushed back from Kharkiv.

Russia isn't gaining ground overall, they got severely beaten in the North and had to retreat, they've gained some ground in the East but that's been eclipsed by ground they've lost around Kherson and Kharkiv.
 
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More delusion, you do seem to have Amnesia, Russians were close to Kyiv, much closer to Kharkiv a few weeks ago, they had to flee from the North, were pushed back from Kharkiv.

Russia isn't gaining ground overall, they got severely beaten in the North and had to retreat, they've gained some ground in the East but that's been eclipsed by ground they've lost around Kherson and Kharkiv.
Someone needs to show this one a map and how they work.
It's not the cat and mouse games that matter but the result of them.

and just wow at the bolded bit lol
 
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Someone needs to show this one a map and how they work.
It's not the cat and mouse games that matter but the result of them.

and just wow at the bolded bit lol

Yep, someone does need to learn to read a map... what happened to the Russian positions around Kharkiv over the past few weeks? What happened to the Russian positions around Kyiv? What happened to the Russian positions around Kharkiv?
 
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Yep, someone does need to learn to read a map... what happened to the Russian positions around Kharkiv over the past few weeks? What happened to the Russian positions around Kyiv? What happened to the Russian positions around Kharkiv?
Overall Russia have gained ground, you can tell because they're in Ukraine.
 
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27-Jun-2022 22:11:13 - Russian Former President Medvedev: Russia Will Strengthen Its Border if Finland, Sweden Join NATO — Russian Agencies
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Really depends on the time scales

* Does Russia have more land today than it had on February 23 before the war? Yes

* Does Russia have more land today than it did in March? No, it lost a lot of land.

* Is Russia currently recovering land it lost since March? Yes, but very very slowly - and at the current pace it will take many years to take the whole country
 
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* Is Russia currently recovering land it lost since March? Yes, but very very slowly - and at the current pace it will take many years to take the whole country

It is largely an ebb and flow, though in recent days they've been progressing more in the east at huge cost.
 
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Russia's meat grinder only has so much meat left to grind. I forget exactly how much equipment they've lost but it's been between 30-50% of their total military equipment and that's in 4 months of war and making slow progress in the east. Their problem is that their military production is massively hampered by sanctions. There's footage of Russians using WW2 riffles and other outdated equipment.

Ukraine has far better quality artillery than Russia currently that is just coming into play. Artillery that has far longer range impacts that is far more accurate than Russian's have available. In theory this should mean Ukraine can pick off Russian targets that can't fire back. I saw an interview of a Ukrainian general and he was very confident once these weapons were fully deployed that Russia could be pressed back outside of Ukrainian borders

The recent shopping centre massacre does seem to be a low blowed response to the success of the damage long ranged missiles have inflicted on Russian targets.

It is up to 50% of the equipment they committed to attacking Ukraine not their total military equipment - they have vast amounts more in storage than has been used so far albeit the condition and quality is another matter.

A lot of the really outdated stuff has been supplied to LNR/DPR forces rather than being used by Russian forces.

Ukraine needs at least 5x, more like 10x as much of the better quality of artillery to be able to convincingly out gun Russia and that is still some way from being supplied if they do get the quantities required meanwhile they are starting to exhaust supplies of their run of the mill artillery systems.
 
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The west can burn all that none crime, hate crime paperwork and rainbow tat, and reflect on what really matters?
but none crimes are serious business obviously since the police waste their time on it for the up coming social credit score our government must be planning on implementing.
 
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Overall Russia have gained ground, you can tell because they're in Ukraine.

The other poster was referring to when things were going well and Russia was being beaten back... if that's the reference then no, Russia has been losing ground in Ukraine.

* Is Russia currently recovering land it lost since March? Yes, but very very slowly - and at the current pace it will take many years to take the whole country

What land is it recovering that it lost since March?

It is making some new gains in the East at great cost but simultaneously losing ground in the South.
 
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Oh, OK, it's one of those... "What is the definition of a win" jobbies. :) Moral against military. Sounds like you are preparing for a lose scenario and getting the excuses in to me.
Being as the goal was regime change and total annexation of Ukraine and splitting NATO/EU then Russia has won very very little of what it wanted.

The fact it's Ukraine is on the way eventually to joing the EU has helped two new countries join NATO and increase the area that borders Russia, has increased the number of NATO troops on its borders ten fold.

Shown the world how weak the Russian military and thier supper weapons...are not so super after all, weakened thier economy massively and lost who knows how many young russian soldiers.


Then I guess you could be happy with your favourite dictator ' wining ' the Donbass region.
 
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