Are you trying to continue Dowies (real) original point that Russian soldiers do not have control of any Ukrainian territory ?
That is why I posted the article and I'm fairly sure it does back up my point.
Feel free to change the argument and talk about daffodils now if you like or you can point to where in this article it states that Russia has not gained any ground in Ukraine. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60506682
I'm not expecting anything other than changing the argument from you.
I did clearly lay it all out^^ and this is what you replied to.
I did even give you the option of talking about daffodils instead unless you really wanted to take it on and if so then to point where in the article it states that Russia has not gained any ground in Ukraine.
It's all their @Rroff, I even said I'm not expecting anything other than a change of argument from you as it's what you do time and time again to squirm out of it.
Everytime it's the same old routine from you, anyway I won't take this any further as the forum user who originally started this instantly back tracked when he saw the entire horde didn't have his back.
I did clearly lay it all out^^ and this is what you replied to.
I did even give you the option of talking about daffodils instead unless you really wanted to take it on and if so then to point where in the article it states that Russia has not gained any ground in Ukraine.
It's all their @Rroff, I even said I'm not expecting anything other than a change of argument from you as it's what you do time and time again to squirm out of it.
Everytime it's the same old routine from you, anyway I won't take this any further as the forum user who originally started this instantly back tracked when he saw the entire horde didn't have his back.
Why would I be trying to continue Dowie's point? I was clearly responding to something you posted... the images I posted clearly show Russia has gained and lost territory in Ukraine so I'm clearly not making any claims about them not gaining any ground in Ukraine.
You are the one who seems to be going to extreme lengths to dodge the implications of what I posted, even trying to dismiss images by attacking the source when they are close to identical even to images you are posting from supposedly sources you trust...
Are you trying to continue Dowies (real) original point that Russian soldiers do not have control of any Ukrainian territory ?
That is why I posted the article and I'm fairly sure it does back up my point.
Then I gave you an option of backing out and talking about daffodils ...none of this jog your memory ?
You then continued and posted my image and another from the same article as some sort of gotcha and when I pointed out they both proved my point you did what you always do, tried to change the argument and started talking about some youtubers map you posted. why? who is this youtuber to you ?
Seriously why would I care for that youtubers map that looks like it was drawn in MS paint.
Their back is kind of in a corner on that one, the T-62 was essentially an upgraded T-55 (in the same vein that the T-90 is an upgraded T-72) and it's a terrible tank by modern standards (in addition to which, it requires an extra crew member to load the gun), but they can actually put some salvageable T-62 back into service as they still produce the parts for export customers who use T-55/62.
On the flipside they can't repair their old T-64s or their T-80Ds (outside of combining multiple wrecks into one working tank) because the parts were never produced in Russia so they would need to order direct from the factories in Ukra- oh snap xD
Are you seriously asking me to explain your actions to you as if I am responsible for you in some way ?look you said
I replied with
Then I gave you an option of backing out and talking about daffodils ...none of this jog your memory ?
You then continued and posted my image and another from the same article as some sort of gotcha and when I pointed out they both proved my point you did what you always do, tried to change the argument and started talking about some youtubers map you posted. why? who is this youtuber to you ?
Seriously why would I care for that youtubers map that looks like it was drawn in MS paint.
You were the one accusing or questioning that I was trying to continue Dowie's point... I'm asking you why I would be? when that hasn't been the nature of my posts.
If you were at all vaguely serious as to what you were posting you wouldn't be trying to move the topic away to some youtuber who is clearly irrelevant here and only used as a handy source for snippets of data which are not in any way controversial.
Their back is kind of in a corner on that one, the T-62 was essentially an upgraded T-55 (in the same vein that the T-90 is an upgraded T-72) and it's a terrible tank by modern standards (in addition to which, it requires an extra crew member to load the gun), but they can actually put some salvageable T-62 back into service as they still produce the parts for export customers who use T-55/62.
On the flipside they can't repair their old T-64s or their T-80Ds (outside of combining multiple wrecks into one working tank) because the parts were never produced in Russia so they would need to order direct from the factories in Ukra- oh snap xD
LOL wat? You really are trolling here aren't you, or you seem to have no ability to understand what people have written. Since when have I argued that Russian soldiers don't have control of any Ukrainian territory?
I'd suggest re-reading and trying to apply some basic reading comprehension.
More delusion, you do seem to have Amnesia, Russians were close to Kyiv, much closer to Kharkiv a few weeks ago, they had to flee from the North, were pushed back from Kharkiv.
Russia isn't gaining ground overall, they got severely beaten in the North and had to retreat, they've gained some ground in the East but that's been eclipsed by ground they've lost around Kherson and Kharkiv.
Russia is losing ground overall, it's not just zero gains it's negative gains (the reference was a couple of months ago - pay attention as you keep on ignoring that).
You can see this quite easily if you bother to look at some maps - firstly the recent gains in the East have come at the same time as losses in the South around Kherson.
Secondly, they've lost territory around Kharkiv and... oh all of the territories they took in the North around Kyiv.
Just an unfriendly reminder for the radical bothsiders that we took Iraq in 42 days, Russia is looking mighty unmighty with their pitiful 126 days and counting. I'll also add in the extra 2925 days since they annexed Crimea for further bewilderment.
The difference there was Iraq was not being fed billions of pounds worth of high tech weaponry, ammunition, logistics and hard cash. Countless planes in their region, and satellites above were not feeding them useful intelligence, and their economy was not being decimated by as many means as the West could possibly think up.
Considering what Russia is currently up against it's hardly surprising this situation is incomparable to the Iraq war.
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I really don't know why the BBC are still held in any regard as a truthful and unbiased news source. They have today had to publish the unsavoury fact that they had to pay substantial damages to a member of their editorial staff who felt their forging of a prominent member of British Royalty's bank statements to lure her into a lucrative interview with the slime ball Martin Bashir, was not something the BBC should really be doing. The BBC then fired him for a "lack of loyalty" in an attempt to further cover up their criminality, compounding their situation in court still further.
Quite why someone isn't doing time for this I have no idea..
The difference there was Iraq was not being fed billions of pounds worth of high tech weaponry, ammunition, logistics and hard cash. Countless planes in their region, and satellites above were not feeding them useful intelligence, and their economy was not being decimated by as many means as the West could possibly think up.
Considering what Russia is currently up against it's hardly surprising this situation is incomparable to the Iraq war.
The difference was the US/UK/Aus/Pol forces went into Iraq incredibly hard. The sheer overwhelming force was apparent from Day 1. I am pretty sure no combatant packed their dress uniform and sauntered across the border like Russia reportedly did in Ukraine. So it wouldn't have mattered if other countries had started feeding Iraq as by the point it came trickling in it was already over.
Russia assumed Ukraine would rollover, as they did in 2014. So didn't go in hard, which was a complete contrast to how the invasion of Iraq was carried out. Which as we can now see with hindsight, was the wrong choice.
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The trouble is I thought you used to be a decent, respected poster. I thought you posted good, informed, reasoned posts in a wide variety of topics. However you posted provable lies in a thread I have good knowledge of. I demonstrated your lies were lies and you refused to either admit you were wrong, or refute my evidence.
Unfortunately it now means none of your other posts can be trusted in good faith. I don’t think once a liar, always a liar, but you need to admit when you have lied or at the very least show why you think you weren’t lying.
As it stands, you are a proven liar and I think you did so to push your narrative. For you to then suggest someone else isn’t truthful is very disingenuous.
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