Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[HungryHippos]

At a total guess @Rroff it's because both sides probably can't afford to throw away planes or pilots, Russia can't get new planes easily now thanks to sanctions, and Ukraine probably can't train them that easily anymore even if they had a lot more planes.

Couple that with AA systems on both sides (hell Russia was reported to have shot down at least 1 or 2 of their own planes if believed) and you have this weird standoff where it's mainly ground assault work going on.

 

[Rroff]

Couple that with AA systems on both sides (hell Russia was reported to have shot down at least 1 or 2 of their own planes if believed) and you have this weird standoff where it's mainly ground assault work going on.

Both sides have shot down their own planes - Soviet era air-defences really don't seem to have been designed with much consideration for contested/complex air-space and more for just destroying "all the things" in the air. There is a good reason IMO all Russian air traffic is routed just outside of the maximum range of the S-300 and 400 complexes and why they seem to be inactive or semi-inactive a lot of the time.

 

[HungryHippos]

Then everyone is too scared to fly as both sides want them dead!

 

[bingham67]

Both sides have shot down their own planes - Soviet era air-defences really don't seem to have been designed with much consideration for contested/complex air-space and more for just destroying "all the things" in the air. There is a good reason IMO all Russian air traffic is routed just outside of the maximum range of the S-300 and 400 complexes and why they seem to be inactive or semi-inactive a lot of the time.

How do they know what plane is flying is it a computer or manual controlled? as it could trigger whatever plane flys over surely.

 

[bingham67]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557431906802737154

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557416752958644225

 

[Scougar]

Steven Seagal... seriously sunk to low levels. Any lingering respect I had for his former years has been completely evaporated.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557060289031438340

 

[HungryHippos]

He used to make decent films as I recall, although maybe more cheesy than decent!

Wonder what happened, because he could do a piece on himself.

 

[Malevolence]

Steven Seagal... seriously sunk to low levels. Any lingering respect I had for his former years has been completely evaporated.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557060289031438340

He really is a a Grade-A throbber.

 

[Rroff]

How do they know what plane is flying is it a computer or manual controlled? as it could trigger whatever plane flys over surely.

Difficult to cover it properly in a post - but it would not normally be left in an automatic mode - targets would be selected manually, there will also be varying levels of friend or foe identification and monitoring of civilian traffic depending on the setup and environment they are operating in.

While more about HIMARS this video posted about recently covers some aspects of how it works https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceskPbDtTzY

He used to make decent films as I recall, although maybe more cheesy than decent!

Wonder what happened, because he could do a piece on himself.

From what I recall he only made 1-2 decent movies then rode on that success as long as he could with a lot of trashy movies.

 

[bris]

He really is a a Grade-A throbber.

He became a Russian citizen a few years ago, there was news footage of Putin giving him his passport.

 

[Minusorange]

zero confirmed planes lost

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1557440576806608897

Are you still sure on this ? Or is it not true unless Russia confirm something they would likely never confirm because it's embarrassing

 

[mattyfez]

It looks like the Russian airfield in Crimea got hit quite surgically.

https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1557441267109400576

 

[Scougar]

Deleted. Already posted.

 

[Rroff]

Given the apparent damage I doubt some of the aircraft which still appear intact are anything close to flyable either.

 

[HungryHippos]

Given the apparent damage I doubt some of the aircraft which still appear intact are anything close to flyable either.

Nothing another explosion can't solve, can temporarily get them flying!

 

[bingham67]

Wonder how special forces done it quite the daring mission no doubt?

 

[alchal]

Current Russian kit also has active anti missile systems - Drozd and Arena.

Yet none have been showed to be deployed,they are bolt ons and probably because the money went elsewhere, the armata has the system built into it.

 

[Minusorange]

Given the apparent damage I doubt some of the aircraft which still appear intact are anything close to flyable either.

It's a shame the runway didn't get taken out

 

[Rroff]

It looks like the Russian airfield in Crimea got hit quite surgically.

https://twitter.com/eliothiggins/status/1557441267109400576

Looks like a crater at the top of centre where a building used to be as well - making it unlikely to be the result of an accident - though no footage so far has any of the usual evidence of artillery or cruise missiles immediately before the explosions - artillery capable of that kind of range and damage makes quite a noticeable impression coming in.

EDIT: Eliot Higgins covers most of the points I was making in the thread from that.

 

[bingham67]

People speculating its MGM-140 ATACMS

Hope it is and Ukraine keep quiet and give some more surprises no need to go public they have them.