Ullrich and Basso kicked out of Tour de France

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Jan Ullrich and Ivan Basso have been taken out of the race by their teams after being named by a Spanish judge on a list of sportsmen to be found using a laboratory in Spain for illegal doping agents.

28 cyclists in total look like being thrown out of the race but obviously Ullrich and Basso have grabbed the headlines being the first and second favourites to win the race.
 
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thats a huge shock was looking forward to seeing who would take over froma lance armstrong this year, without those two though not going to be as good.
 
Check out the Eurosport website. At the minute it is tricky trting to keep up with what is going on with more riders being thrown out by the minute.
 
given the number of people dropping out, I might show up with my mountain bike and have a bash. I might even be in with a chance :D
 
ASTANA WURTH team have gone now. 5 out of 9 of there team were on the list so they only had 4 left and the rules state you have to have at least 6 riders to start. I am not surprised because it was there team manager who was caught handing over £100,000 in cash for a suitcase full of illegal substances when the spanish authorities made the initial bust.
 
Very interesting, I just saw this story earlier on today. I wonder if this will affect David Millar at all now since he is only recently back from a doping ban, maybe giving him a better chance although he will probably still only attempt to win the prologue and maybe a stage or two if he is lucky. Good luck to cycling for clearing itself up but I think that like athletics it has a very long and unpleasant road ahead of it.
 
Why dont they just end the sport, its been fixed for years and even without Lance its gone crap, its just lost its glory. Bring in F1 rules like a sub between riders.

King of the Dope Mountain.
 
or could they open it up and let people do what they want?
even with doping you would still ahve to put in hours upon hours of training to maintain the stamina for a 3 week tour. no amount of doping can replace the need to train exhaustively. just a thought.
 
Mr Mag00 said:
or could they open it up and let people do what they want?
even with doping you would still ahve to put in hours upon hours of training to maintain the stamina for a 3 week tour. no amount of doping can replace the need to train exhaustively. just a thought.
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There are to many cyclists dying young to open it up. It needs proper punishments to deter the cheats not monuments near the top of mountains in there memory. Some people are happy that David Millar now stands a better chance of doing well now that the big names have been stopped from riding. I personally can not support someone who has been caught cheating.

Strong leadership by the authorities in charge of cycling is required to combat the problem not the pass the buck attitude we have had between the UCI, WADA and the individual organisers of the races.
 
Peg said:
Some people are happy that David Millar now stands a better chance of doing well now that the big names have been stopped from riding. I personally can not support someone who has been caught cheating.
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So if someone has cheated once then they never deserve support? David Millar will now have to be even more careful than most riders about what he takes in the way of supplements, he was lucky to get a second chance, he won't get a third. If anything this will force him to be cleaner than the rest which is in itself no bad thing, he was stripped of the medals during the period he was known to be cheating and he co-operated with the authorities, that in itself takes a fair amount of courage. It doesn't excuse the original offence but it may go some way to mitigate it.

You are of course free to support or not support who you like, I'm just putting a slightly different spin on it :)
 
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