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Upgrading advice.

Discussion in 'New to PC gaming & upgrade advice' started by Vanya Hargreeves, 12 Sep 2021.

  1. EsaT

    Capodecina

    Joined: 6 Jun 2008

    Posts: 10,501

    Location: Finland

    There's only one real generation difference.
    Intel rebranded same old 2015's Skylake four times!
    "7th gen" should have been nothing more than 6750K etc, because it was only minor clock speed tweak.

    "8th gen" at least finally added more cores after Intel stagnating 10 years in four cores:
    "Four cores is high end Intel" was the biggest obstacle for advance of game development in last decade.
    But needing new boards was completely artificial limitation for grabbing more money by force selling also new motherboards.
    By hacking BIOS "6/7 gen" boards accept succeeding rebrandings fine:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/250109/...0-ghz-overclock-on-a-z170-chipset-motherboard
    Also except for the top models Intel disabled HyperThreading.

    And 10th gen Comet aka Comedy Lake was another emergency edition with more cores crammed in and HyperThreading restored for even higher max power draw to try to keep up with AMD.

    Rocket Lake (11th gen) was Intel's first actual architectural change in five years.
    But because of failed manufacturing node development it being backport for same old 14nm++++++ it is hardly better than Skylake rebrandings.
    And core count had to be cut back to 8, which is half of AMDs core count available for desktop platform socket.
    Meaning no upgradability without changing board, while AMD likely brings 3D stacked L3 cache upgraded Zen3s for current AM4.
     
  2. Joxeon

    Soldato

    Joined: 15 Oct 2019

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    Location: Uk

    If you want to stick with Intel then the 10700K has decent price performance and can be had for just over £250 although another option is to wait for 12th gen Alderlake which will be out in a couple of months and will offer more cores than AMD at lower price points with a new big little architecture that's optimised for the new upcoming Windows 11.
     
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  3. Craig_d1

    Gangster

    Joined: 12 Apr 2020

    Posts: 410

    upgrade path still leads to 11900k max though. If 12th gen launching beginning of Nov not long to wait. Can't see it being much later, they want to get xmas sales I'm guessing, and with some price leaks, they must be close to launch now
     
  4. turbot1984

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Jan 2012

    Posts: 2,260

    be tempted to wait rather than splash £580 on a 11900k - suggested Alder Lake prices
    i9 12900K - $604.89
    i9 12900KF - $578.13
    i7 12700K - $422.17
    i7 12700KF - $395.61

    If you need to flick the switch now, 5800x best bet.
     
  5. turbot1984

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Jan 2012

    Posts: 2,260

    if cash is tight this costs a little bit more than 5800x?
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  6. Joxeon

    Soldato

    Joined: 15 Oct 2019

    Posts: 6,819

    Location: Uk

    You don't always need a CPU upgrade path though, the 10700k is plenty good enough for a few years by which time upgrading to a new system once DDR5 is mainstream would mean far more of a performance increase than upgrading the CPU on the current platform.