US Internet
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Wrong forum me thinks.
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Contention wise, I would say that they are contended in the US as we are in the UK though not the same figures (50:1 consumer, 20:1 business are BT Wholesales standards though it's dependant on the ISP's load balancing as to what the real contention is).
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I think that a lot of US internet connections have a larger download speed than upload, 128k up and 768k down on ADSL compared to the UK that has 256k up and 512k down.
Things have changed a lot in the last few years so it may be very different now but I still think upload speeds are much lower compared with download speeds.
**Edit**
Contention wise, I would say that they are contended in the US as we are in the UK though not the same figures (50:1 consumer, 20:1 business are BT Wholesales standards though it's dependant on the ISP's load balancing as to what the real contention is).
**Edit**
I think that a lot of US internet connections have a larger download speed than upload, 128k up and 768k down on ADSL compared to the UK that has 256k up and 512k down.
Things have changed a lot in the last few years so it may be very different now but I still think upload speeds are much lower compared with download speeds.
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a lot of the time the contention ratio is due to the expense of the provider for traffic exiting their network at the exchange point, so basically. if everyone had 2mb syncronous connections it would cost the ISP an absoloute fortune in bills relating to their peering agreement at the exchange point. Inbound traffic is far less cost or free depending on what ISP you have.
Zico said:
No they aren't.
BTw consider anything beyond 400kbps a fault for Home/non-Premium 2Mbps and above, so at worse it's 20:1 (ie 8Mbps / 400kbps) and 5:1 at best (2Mbps / 400kbps).
Office/Premium gets priority over Home/non-Premium, but the extent to which it does is blurry.
I have been wondering due to a time when I was uploading something onto an ftp server for somebody else. They thought I had a really slow connection (I have 4 meg) due to the time taken to upload it. I have always assumed the contention was a lot better.
I posted in GD because the number of americans posting there is a lot higher than here.
I posted in GD because the number of americans posting there is a lot higher than here.
US connections vary wildly from dialup to 30mbit down and 5mbit up, in general they had faster connections before we did in the UK as did parts of europe but in recent years the UK has begun to catch up, I remember using a T1 in the US long before I ever got 56k let alone ISDN in the UK. Some US Cable Co's lifted the cap's on connections and got themselves into a world of hurt, some benefited because of this and had great upload speeds and even better download speeds but the majority paid for it in more ways than one.
Anyway to cut a long story short in the same way we all used to have 512k/256k and now 8192k(max)/448k is becoming the norm and in certain limited areas 24/1.5 is an option so it is in the US only they were ahead of us in the speed stakes for a long time eg 5mbit/2mbit from cox cable coming in at under $40.
Anyway to cut a long story short in the same way we all used to have 512k/256k and now 8192k(max)/448k is becoming the norm and in certain limited areas 24/1.5 is an option so it is in the US only they were ahead of us in the speed stakes for a long time eg 5mbit/2mbit from cox cable coming in at under $40.
tolien said:
50:1 and 20:1 for Contention were the figures for ADSL in the UK via BTwholesale (though this was never the case in reality).
I've actually just found out that this no longer applies since the BT MAX rollout in March:
How does Contention work?
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Zico said:
Which is roughly what I said, with the distinction being it's ADSL over IPStream (DataStream's still "via BT Wholesale", but backhaul's handed over to the provider before the point you measure 50/20:1 at). Admittedly, I should've pointed the latter part out.
The key word being "were" - though I'm sure someone noticed the defined values disappeared from the SINs before IPStream Max ceased being a trial. Hmmm.