They do, indirectly.
VAT rise..anyone worried?
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They do, indirectly.
No it's not, it's £20 on top of every £100 you spend.
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You'd rather pay Canadian prices for stuff? lol, spec me a mobile phone with contract and then come back with the real meaning of the word rape.
It doesn't take away from the fact that we're still getting bent over with the VAT rate, even if it's worse in Canada.
My view on it is that Cameron is trying to dig us out of the mess that Labour left us in (really, I'm no Cameron fan at all). I'm probably older than most on this forum and the last time Labour managed to get into power they messed things up abysmally too. My father used to hate Labour and I always tried to take the middle line and think for myself by questioning why he may be so staunchley against them. I didn't understand it at the time and wondered why he had that opinion...
Nowadays I realise why he did and, for me, the evidence in my own lifetime is stong enough for me to agree with him now.
Labour simply can't manage an economy and leave others to pick up the mess. It;s all smoke and mirrors that makes people think they are better for them.
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Not going to affect me in the slightest. An extra £2.50 on £100 really isn't going to dent the bank account.
Remember this: buy cheap, buy twice. If you want to pay less tax, buy something expensive
Bingo. My parents are terrible for this. Often they buy cheap goods and then get annoyed when they have to replace it a month later.
It's not a 2.5% increase it is a 14.27% increase in VAT
He is going the wrong way about it "his way" to line his own pocket. When have the Labour party ever been successful when it comes to this Country's economy anyway? either way it all boils down to one thing and that is the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer
Indeed and (this isn't aimed at you) I'm tired of people moaning that life isn't fair. They are right it isn't. But it isn't meant to be fair.
People need to get on and deal with it. They should adapt to the changing world around them and take responsibility for themselves. I left school with very little (not even a degree, shock horror!) and yet I've managed to do ok for myself and family and have never taken, or expected, a penny from this country. I'll probably never be rich. But I don't begrudge the rich what they have. Good luck to them, and maybe one day I might be there.
Labour = give me what I think I deserve
Conservative = give me what I've earned
Lib Dem = sorry, no idea
Give me conservative any day. At least I reap my own reward or reap my own failure. But it's in my own hands.
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With the 40% bracket dropping a few thousand and 20% VAT, how exactly are the 'rich' getting richer. Please bear in mind at that earning 50k a year is not rich!
The poor won't work overtime because 'I won't get my tax credits'. The poor have free school for their children, massive university help, and access to all the things that rich people do like the NHS.
People with 'window licker' jobs have no idea how good their lives are in the UK compared to other countries. The reason we owe so much money is Labour gave these window lickers so many free-bees that we cannot afford.
I'd be bloody embarassed if my dad was on some crap sub 20k wage at age 50. Some people have no intention of working their way up the ladder and earning more money, they are happy at the bottom with tax credits and complaining constantly in doing so, whine whine oh the poor are hit hard whine.
I bloody hate Labour, they seem to think that the cabbages deserve the high life, with those who have decent jobs paying for it.
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Spot on, thankyou.
I have a never ending stream of tax leaving my pocket, yet I seem to be too 'rich' to get anything back. I don't have a problem with supprting those who genuinely need it but I do not want to support those who have no interest in cotributing to society in the way my family and I do. If you don't have a job and can't contribute then get off your bum and volunteer somewhere.
What really gets up my nose right now is the 'student' protests because they dont agree they should have to pay back any money after thay gain financially from their degree. Yet I am no longer in a catchment area for a school for my children. Last year the catchment shrunk so much (due to immigration... I promise I'm not making it up) that I'm now faced with my children being moved to a sinking school next year.
I have a choice... (1) let my children go to the worst school in the area, (2) sell my house and spend the money on private education, (3) sell my house and, after the massive stamp duty and fees, buy a much smaller one in an area where the school is a nanometer next door.
I will adapt though.
Thank you Labour for what you have done to the education system. And for that reason I acn no longer afford to be generous anymore and have to put my own family's basic education first. In the light of that, I simply can't support the 'students' desire for several years spent getting drunk, buying macbooks, and learning nothing.
Get a job. And if you can't manage to find one doing what you want to do then... get a job doing something you don't want to do, for less money than you want to do. That's life I'm afraid.
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A single item is hardly representative, mobiles in particular due to the completely different geography of the USA and Canada. Maybe it would be better to compare the $599 vs €599 PS3 release price as an example?
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We've never had it so good!
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Maybe so but it's certainly a lot simpler for some to reap the rewards than others, if you start the hill from half way up then it's often easier to climb than if you start from the bottom. That's not to say that many people won't make a success from a relatively poor start in life or that some won't reap failure from a privileged start but it tends to be more difficult given either starting circumstance to end at those results.
As you say life isn't fair but recognising that does mean that sometimes you can do something about it.
Equally £50k p/a doesn't automatically make you poor - depending on what measurement you choose to take the "average" salary is loosely between £25-30k overall is it not? Earning almost double the average salary could make you pretty comfortably off but it depends on what your outgoings are.
It's also worth pointing out that it's not an argument about the rich per se you've started there, it's an argument about what you might call middle income earners. The rich may still be getting richer and that wouldn't impact on whether those earning £50k p/a were getting the (relatively) short straw.
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Tell that to the country.