Veterans .Who thinks pc gaming have really evolved in the last few years ..

One Vision said:
Yes but my point being that Golden age will be different for people depending on there age and what they were exposed too. However if you've been there from the beginning i would have to agree around 1990 - 2000 is a Golden age of PC games written specifically for the PC and nothing else.

The amount of flight sims in this time frame is fantastic and unrivalled.
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I agree, but I'm a vet like you. Xbox, PS2, Dreamcast, Gamecube changed the PC Only landscape so much.

Gaming has never been anything other than golden for me, living through it. PC only games now, outside of indie, are normally only relevant to Strategy games, games where you need a mouse.
 
It's fairly obvious most people think the golden age was the one they were around to appreciate. With that said I think it started with Wolfenstein 3D and ended with a COD clone.
 
davewhite04 said:
I disagree. I have 300+ PC games and have stuck with say 30. I'm playing Dark Souls now. Many people have more games then that and are in the same boat as me.

Your point is mute for most gamers.

Name 30 must have games in the last year, then I'll agree with you.
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What a ridiculous quantity to require. When has any platform EVER had 30+ games in one year that were must-haves?

And honestly, I could name a whole bunch from last year but I know damn well you'd dismiss a huge number of them based on personal taste or just pure stubborness.

I would still say we get FAR more great games on PC than we ever did, at any point in history. Maybe you have ultra specific tastes and wont play anything that doesn't have some busy, esoteric UI that only works with kb/m, but dont go thinking you are the majority or that 'most' PC gamers have such limited tastes and dont appreciate what we have right now.

EDIT: And I'm not pointing this out to be snarky - the word is 'moot', not mute. For the future!
 
Am i the only person who think PC game has become incredibly dumbed down and stale? I remember the day's of going to PC world as a child and buying games like Rage of Mages which were great little games and whatever you bought was always somewhat satisfying.

Now buy games for £40-50 Only to play them for a few hours, i've never found anything i could really sink my time into other than Cities: Skylines, Medieval Chivalry Warfare, TW Rome 2 and now i play a lot of R6: Siege.

Other than that i can't find the will to play, i think a lot of the reason is none of my friends have PC's and most the games i'm interested in are online or co-op but i just find games very lacking lately.

Gone are the day's of great RTS, Sims and sandbox games i fear and MMORPG's have been dead since classic WoW and Starwars Galaxies. For me atleast.
 
liammorris1990 said:
Am i the only person who think PC game has become incredibly dumbed down and stale? I remember the day's of going to PC world as a child and buying games like Rage of Mages which were great little games and whatever you bought was always somewhat satisfying.

Now buy games for £40-50 Only to play them for a few hours, i've never found anything i could really sink my time into other than Cities: Skylines, Medieval Chivalry Warfare, TW Rome 2 and now i play a lot of R6: Siege.

Other than that i can't find the will to play, i think a lot of the reason is none of my friends have PC's and most the games i'm interested in are online or co-op but i just find games very lacking lately.

Gone are the day's of great RTS, Sims and sandbox games i fear and MMORPG's have been dead since classic WoW and Starwars Galaxies. For me atleast.
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I agree, for PC titles only. We have Civilisation, Football Manager, etc. all completely unoriginal and that is why they can seem stale. I'm glad MMORPG's are dead, they prevented me from playing so many good single player games, as by their nature they take up all your gaming time.
 
Seanspeed said:
What a ridiculous quantity to require. When has any platform EVER had 30+ games in one year that were must-haves?

And honestly, I could name a whole bunch from last year but I know damn well you'd dismiss a huge number of them based on personal taste or just pure stubborness.

I would still say we get FAR more great games on PC than we ever did, at any point in history. Maybe you have ultra specific tastes and wont play anything that doesn't have some busy, esoteric UI that only works with kb/m, but dont go thinking you are the majority or that 'most' PC gamers have such limited tastes and dont appreciate what we have right now.

EDIT: And I'm not pointing this out to be snarky - the word is 'moot', not mute. For the future!
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Are you always judgemental? Is talking nonsense a natural gift you have? You don't know me from Adam.
 
People look back with nostalgia. There were a handful of good games back in the 80's I remember fondly but there vast amounts of dross too which gets conveniently forgotten in the rosy glow of recollection.

Things havn't really changed. There are a handful of titles I really love but amongst the gems today there are still vast swathes of dross.
 
I used to love FPS games but I spend all my gaming time on Madden on the Xbox or a weird mix of kerbal space program, rollercoaster tycoon and other turn\ real-time strategy games.

So old :)
 
Blackjack Davy said:
People look back with nostalgia. There were a handful of good games back in the 80's I remember fondly but there vast amounts of dross too which gets conveniently forgotten in the rosy glow of recollection.

Things havn't really changed. There are a handful of titles I really love but amongst the gems today there are still vast swathes of dross.
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I look back at times when I stayed up all night to complete Monkey Island 1/2. Indiana Jones - Fate of Atlantis, great times early nineties for adventure games on the PC. Kings Quest, Space Quest, and all the Revolution stuff. Then you had Ultima - Underworld RPG. Doom 1 and 2. Nothing has changed, I was obsessed by games then(and upgrading my 386 sx 16mhz, with a soundblaster, to a 486sx). PC building and games were great and are now. People who weren't born or old enough to appreciate them don't know how great they were at the time, just like how great some games are now. You had to use your imagination more in the past I guess too.
 
One thing I always imagined growing up (in the 80s/90s) was that games would get increasingly complex, increasingly deep, more and more akin to living in another world.

Instead, AAA games have become more and more shallow. Prettier and prettier, but dumb as a rock these days, and barely requiring the player to do anything more than deal with a few QTEs.

Esp in the MMO space is this particularly true. Games that were deep and complex have given way to games where the most important thing is the style of hat you're wearing, and how good the dance moves are.
 
One Vision said:
Yes but my point being that Golden age will be different for people depending on there age and what they were exposed too. However if you've been there from the beginning i would have to agree around 1990 - 2000 is a Golden age of PC games written specifically for the PC and nothing else.

The amount of flight sims in this time frame is fantastic and unrivalled.
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While a person can say that 2012 was a "Golden Age" because that's all they know, it doesn't make it true. Meanwhile, the era of early 90's-early 2000's is accepted as the Golden Age of PC gaming because that is where originality and innovation happened, it was the dawn of modern PC gaming as we know it. It's just a fact, same as with the rock and roll example I highlighted earlier, and not being born in that time doesn't change that.
 
FoxEye said:
One thing I always imagined growing up (in the 80s/90s) was that games would get increasingly complex, increasingly deep, more and more akin to living in another world.

Instead, AAA games have become more and more shallow. Prettier and prettier, but dumb as a rock these days, and barely requiring the player to do anything more than deal with a few QTEs.

Esp in the MMO space is this particularly true. Games that were deep and complex have given way to games where the most important thing is the style of hat you're wearing, and how good the dance moves are.
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EVE Online disagrees with you. In fact for most posts here, there are counter-examples to even the most cynical comments. We still have the staple genres, but veterans expect more because they have been playing them for so long :D
 
The game I have been waiting for a very very long time is Star Citizen. I think it will be a true evolution in gaming, even now in alpha it is seriously impressive at times.

I just hope they can pull it off.
 
Random Guy said:
EVE Online disagrees with you. In fact for most posts here, there are counter-examples to even the most cynical comments. We still have the staple genres, but veterans expect more because they have been playing them for so long :D
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I guess it's relative - there are probably just as many "good" games as always. The problem is filtering out the much higher number of not so good ones!

davewhite04 said:
Classics are relative to different people. Bioshock series was mediocre to me for example, while the Division has been the game of the year so far(must get back on it).

We are in a golden age of gaming, without a doubt.
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Surely "classic" implies some kind of lasting quality. How many people do you think are still going to be playing/talking about The Division in 4-5 years?

Random Guy said:
EVE Online disagrees with you.
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That kinda proves the point doesn't it? Eve is 13 years old... Yes, it's had patches and new versions, but at it's roots, it's still a game from 2003.
 
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Haggisman said:
Surely "classic" implies some kind of lasting quality. How many people do you think are still going to be playing/talking about The Division in 4-5 years?
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To me it's a classic for the type of game it is, regardless of what anyone else tells me. People bang on about how Bioshock Infinite is a rare classic etc. well not for me it wasn't.

Same with movies, or any art form.
 
davewhite04 said:
To me it's a classic for the type of game it is, regardless of what anyone else tells me. People bang on about how Bioshock Infinite is a rare classic etc. well not for me it wasn't.

Same with movies, or any art form.
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Yeah i know what you mean, i found the same thing with Alien Isolation. Played it for a few hours etc then got bored and uninstalled, same old Tosh with a new lick of paint....zzZZzz.
 
It says a lot that quite a few of my friends are hoping that the new Doom game will play exactly the same way as the original Doom from all those years ago. Could just be nostalgia kicking in though. I reckon it all depends on what games you grew up with. I still remember Manic Miner as being awesome and the epitome of gaming!
 
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