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(Video) The i5 is Dead...Long Live the i5?

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As AdoredTV predicted the quad cores have started to struggle in games that use multiple threads. AC:Origins is a sign of things to come and it does not bode well for anyone still buying a quad core for gaming. The game nearly maxes out a 6 core cpu so even the new i5 could get maxed out in a couple of years in some games.
 


As AdoredTV predicted the quad cores have started to struggle in games that use multiple threads. AC:Origins is a sign of things to come and it does not bode well for anyone still buying a quad core for gaming. The game nearly maxes out a 6 core cpu so even the new i5 could get maxed out in a couple of years in some games.


He didn't predict crap lol. We all knew that quads were starting to get maxed out. In a few years so will 8 cores.
In other news water is wet.
 
I noticed most of the people who were pushing the 2C/4T and 4C/4T CPUs tended to have 4C/8T to 8C/16T CPUs anyway,and now are recommending the 6C/6T Core i5 over the 4C/4T Core i3 CPUs.

In fact I am kind of glad I went with a slightly lower clocked Core i7 all those years ago over a Core i5,as I expect the Core i5 would be hitting more issues in some games I play.

If anything I told anyone I knew who was going to get a Core i5 7600K this year to hold off until Ryzen and the Intel response was out(or even to just get hold off an older Core i7 6700/6700K instead). In the end they have all gotten better deals and CPUs with probably a bit more in the tank longterm.

How things change in under a year! :p
 
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I noticed most of the people who were pushing the 2C/4T and 4C/4T CPUs tended to have 4C/8T to 8C/16T CPUs anyway,and now are recommending the 6C/6T Core i5 over the 4C/4T Core i3 CPUs.

In fact I am kind of glad I went with a slightly lower clocked Core i7 all those years ago over a Core i5,as I expect the Core i5 would be hitting more issues in some games I play.

If anything I told anyone I knew who was going to get a Core i5 7600K this year to hold off until Ryzen and the Intel response was out(or even to just get hold off an older Core i7 6700/6700K instead). In the end they have all gotten better deals and CPUs with probably a bit more in the tank longterm.

How things change in under a year! :p

Not half. We've gone from CPU's with 4 threads to 16 on better platforms and for less money. My next gaming* system upgrade will be a 16 thread chip. That should take care of my CPU needs for some time.
 
1 game doesnt change that. 8700k is faster than threadripper also, despite having many more cores.
What does a 8700k have to do with an i3?. So many were saying quad cores are all but dead whilst others were trying to push them. 1 game doesn't change anything but a pattern is starting to emerge as newer games begin to use more cores.
 
What does a 8700k have to do with an i3?. So many were saying quad cores are all but dead whilst others were trying to push them. 1 game doesn't change anything but a pattern is starting to emerge as newer games begin to use more cores.

Core count didn't matter while Intel was behind, it was all about IPC. Now Intel are less behind with Coffe lake core count now matters. Well only if it's a 6 core Intel Coffe lake. All the other Intel 6 cores are "old tech" and unless aparently.
 
Core count didn't matter while Intel was behind, it was all about IPC. Now Intel are less behind with Coffe lake core count now matters. Well only if it's a 6 core Intel Coffe lake. All the other Intel 6 cores are "old tech" and unless aparently.
It's just common sense really the signs have been there for a while and Intel have all but confirmed that with coffee lake.
 
Core count didn't matter while Intel was behind, it was all about IPC. Now Intel are less behind with Coffe lake core count now matters. Well only if it's a 6 core Intel Coffe lake. All the other Intel 6 cores are "old tech" and unless aparently.
No core count has always mattered but having half the IPC of Sandy with 8c/8t isn't enough, now we are seeing powerful 6/8c 12/16t it matters.

Origins is a bad example with 40% of the performance going because of stupid DRM which will be cracked next year.
 
No core count has always mattered but having half the IPC of Sandy with 8c/8t isn't enough, now we are seeing powerful 6/8c 12/16t it matters.

Origins is a bad example with 40% of the performance going because of stupid DRM which will be cracked next year.

Not according to some. It's all about IPC and clock speed.
 
It's just common sense really the signs have been there for a while and Intel have all but confirmed that with coffee lake.

Yeah. Ever since the consoles went the 8 core PC hardware path and Mantle was launched the situation was clear. That was 4 years ago now.
 
What does a 8700k have to do with an i3?. So many were saying quad cores are all but dead whilst others were trying to push them. 1 game doesn't change anything but a pattern is starting to emerge as newer games begin to use more cores.


Just saying you can have as many cores as you like but you need clockspeed also. Hence why threadripper is getting beat by a 6 core.
 
I think you're years out of touch. Just spinning up virtual threads can offer yeailds of 50%
You can't have that many cores you need to fit them somewhere and keep decent clockspeeds, if you have that many cores you'll end up with a die way to big for mainstream.
Just saying you can have as many cores as you like but you need clockspeed also. Hence why threadripper is getting beat by a 6 core.
Intel have shown that they can keep clockspeed, make the die bigger the IGPU could stay and another 2 cores could be added, Icelake will probably prove that.
 
Just saying you can have as many cores as you like but you need clockspeed also. Hence why threadripper is getting beat by a 6 core.

Thredripper smashes Coffee lake 6 cores into dust when it comes to multithreaded tasks. They're not even in the same performance league. So clearly it's not down to hardware.
 
You can't have that many cores you need to fit them somewhere and keep decent clockspeeds, if you have that many cores you'll end up with a die way to big for mainstream.

Intel have shown that they can keep clockspeed, make the die bigger the IGPU could stay and another 2 cores could be added, Icelake will probably prove that.

AMD are already offering 16c 32t chips in a desktop platform. They even have 8c 16t laptops.
 
This was my favourite part of the video

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