On their own, AMD has limited influence but with Intel also moving to 6 cores + I think developers will be pushed to code for multiple cores. Intel wants to get people to upgrade from their 4core cpu's so no doubt they will have a hand in it. Microsoft and Sony will also ensure devs use all the cores available on the Xbox One X/PS4 Pro so we will see more and more games maxing out lower core cpus.
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On their own, AMD has limited influence but with Intel also moving to 6 cores + I think developers will be pushed to code for multiple cores. Intel wants to get people to upgrade from their 4core cpu's so no doubt they will have a hand in it. Microsoft and Sony will also ensure devs use all the cores available on the Xbox One X/PS4 Pro so we will see more and more games maxing out lower core cpus.
I agree that AMD has limited influence, however I don't think Intel cares about gaming development, or works closely with developers to optimise games for their hardware. Admittedly it might simply be because they've been dominating for a long time or its just something that isn't widely discussed.
He’s critical where he finds the need to be. He’s perceived as being pro Amd and anti everyone else but that’s not always the case, he was anti Vega for example and called long before the hype train was full steam ahead.
I find his stuff refreshing and he usually presents his arguements in well thought out detail, even if he may not be right or I may not agree with it.
I prefer him than a lot the other guys who are essentially on the payroll with their sponsored or provided reviews.
I find his stuff refreshing and he usually presents his arguements in well thought out detail, even if he may not be right or I may not agree with it.
I prefer him than a lot the other guys who are essentially on the payroll with their sponsored or provided reviews.
Also with the next generation of consoles we will see stronger zen cores rather than the weaker jaguar cores.
It’s already happening I don’t see what all the fuss is about.
He got given a threadripper to review on release. He's on the payroll as much as everybody else.
Nice.
Ryzen is fine. Issue is a lot of games relesed up to last couple of years, are heavy on single thread processes, and completely unable to work with AMD SMT.
Good example TW Warhammer 1 and TW Attila, which are trying to run at the last thread. (TWW2 runs at the last core hence performance is fine on Ryzen). Or Elder Scrolls Online, which is must to turn off AMD SMT, otherwise fps tanks.
Is this issue with AMD? No. They cannot enforce existing games to change how they operate.
However moving forward, all games take the Ryzen into consideration and more and more optimised games for 16 thread operations will come out.
Also direct console ports work perfectly on Ryzen/Vega (Forza, GoW). Converted console ports, not so much and depends how stupid are those making decisions.
For the latter, a good example is Tomb Raider.
The developers gave to a third party company the job to do the port. What they did (3rd party), took the Xbox360 code base (not the XBone) and added gameworks to it (to get the Nvidia grant money)
Final result was running pathetically on Ryzen CPUs and took multiple patches from the initial developers to fix it a bit.
Good example TW Warhammer 1 and TW Attila, which are trying to run at the last thread. (TWW2 runs at the last core hence performance is fine on Ryzen). Or Elder Scrolls Online, which is must to turn off AMD SMT, otherwise fps tanks.
Is this issue with AMD? No. They cannot enforce existing games to change how they operate.
However moving forward, all games take the Ryzen into consideration and more and more optimised games for 16 thread operations will come out.
Also direct console ports work perfectly on Ryzen/Vega (Forza, GoW). Converted console ports, not so much and depends how stupid are those making decisions.
For the latter, a good example is Tomb Raider.
The developers gave to a third party company the job to do the port. What they did (3rd party), took the Xbox360 code base (not the XBone) and added gameworks to it (to get the Nvidia grant money)
Final result was running pathetically on Ryzen CPUs and took multiple patches from the initial developers to fix it a bit.
GoW runs like **** on ryzen. Even on dx12 games they predominately run on 1 or 2 main threads.
Not by using GTX indeed......
That won't change until AMD can make something that can compete in performance AND price AND power consumption AND get some 3rd party cards out of the door. They have a long way to come yet.
Or when Nvidia pulls the finger out of their ****** to fix their crap drivers
No need in the current state of affairs.
so you admit the Nvidia **** drivers are responsible.
I don't know, they might be but why bother changing anything when AMD pose no threat?
Perhaps if/when can challenge them on all fronts they might do something about it. (Assuming there is a problem)
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Well there goes me wanting to buy a Ryzen quad core for a budget build.
In what area do AMD need to compete? It's only the Nvidia focus group care about power use and only when Nvidia are better. Dont listen to those guys.
Then why be so concerned about what AMD are doing on the CPU front ? An Nvidia card and 7640X or 5Ghz 7700K is about as good as gaming gets.
8700k you mean.
Price, availability, performance, power consumption, day 1 drivers, heat output, AIB cards
There is probably a lot more.
No if I meant 8700K I'd have said it. Maybe the 8700K will be worth considering in 3 months when prices are right. But if the aim is to build a 1920x1080 games console and the Nvidia driver loads a core or two then the extra core of coffee lake are not going to be worth much.
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