• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

(Video) The i5 is Dead...Long Live the i5?

jigger said:
Ok so no more spam about power use and heat from the focus group then. The 780Ti was as hot, loud and power hungry as anything. Pascal is 100watts too slow.
Click to expand...

Context... context...

PS you still haven't answered my previous question instead just terminating in a fit of petulance...
 
jigger said:
My 780Ti pulled as much if not more power than my 290X. When I finally got rid of the 780Ti the 290X was also a good margin faster.

Not a peep about power use from you guys about those cards. One of the reason I haven't bought Nvidia is because they don't have a 300 watt card.
Click to expand...

Power draw isn't an issue but when your main competitor has a faster card that draws less power it's obviously going to sway a potential buyer.

To be honest the main factor in any purchase for me is bang for buck. I couldn't give a monkeys if a company has the most powerful cpu or gpu, I just want the most power for the cheapest price, if that means I haven't quite got the best their is, then fine, as long as I'm not paying silly money for it.
 
Doobedoo said:
Power draw isn't an issue but when your main competitor has a faster card that draws less power it's obviously going to sway a potential buyer.

To be honest the main factor in any purchase for me is bang for buck. I couldn't give a monkeys if a company has the most powerful cpu or gpu, I just want the most power for the cheapest price, if that means I haven't quite got the best their is, then fine, as long as I'm not paying silly money for it.
Click to expand...

I agree, vega pretty much flopped. The only people that defend this are die had AMD fans.
It can keep up in some games, whilst running hotter, louder, costing more and having poor day 1 drivers. And arriving much later than the 1080ti.
 
gavinh87 said:
I agree, vega pretty much flopped. The only people that defend this are die had AMD fans.
It can keep up in some games, whilst running hotter, louder, costing more and having poor day 1 drivers.
Click to expand...
Dude why are we even stating the obvious how has vega even come into it?

Cpu section not Graphic Cards.
 
Doobedoo said:
Power draw isn't an issue but when your main competitor has a faster card that draws less power it's obviously going to sway a potential buyer.

To be honest the main factor in any purchase for me is bang for buck. I couldn't give a monkeys if a company has the most powerful cpu or gpu, I just want the most power for the cheapest price, if that means I haven't quite got the best their is then fine as long as I'm not paying silly money for it.
Click to expand...

Yeah if everything is even then looking at secondary merits might tip the balance one way. Fact is though the 290X was a better card.

I bought a GTX480 in the hope I could tame it. That card got slaughtered but not becuase of how much power it pulled but because it was too slow by 50%. The focus group never understood that. The path Nvidia was on with Fermi was the right path. Nvidia just lost the bottle to respin, fix the problems and stick with the 300watt plus high end design.
 
Last edited:
gavinh87 said:
Not even sure how nvidia got dragged into this lol!
Click to expand...

Your lack of understanding and posts. You'll buy whatever CPU the video card driver and API can leverage the best. Thats not a bad thing, but it's horrible to way to judge the a CPU's performance when clearly some CPU's are under performing.
 
jigger said:
Yeah if everything is even then looking at secondary merits might tip the balance one way. Fact is though the 290X was a better card.

I bought a GTX480 in the hope I could take it. That card got slaughtered but not becuase of how much power it pulled but because it was too slow by 50%. The focus group never understood that. The path Nvidia was on with Fwrmi was the right path. They just lost the bottle to respin, fix the problems and stick with the 300watt plus high end design.
Click to expand...
It's not really relevant though. Sure Amd have had better cards than Nvidia and right now Nvidia have better cards than Amd. It's happened before so who cares.

I'll give everyone a tip for free ;). If Vega doesn't float your boat then buy Nvidia and don't worry about it. Let's just hope Amd can release a more competitive card next time because competition is good for everyone. Simples.
 
Doobedoo said:
It's not really relevant though. Sure Amd have had better cards than Nvidia and right now Nvidia have better cards than Amd. It's happened before so who cares.

I'll give everyone a tip for free ;). If Vega doesn't float your boat then buy Nvidia and don't worry about it. Let's just hope Amd can release a more competitive card next time because competition is good for everyone. Simples.
Click to expand...

For me the price of Vega is too high and with hindsight I would probably buy a 1070 at launch. But again the price of Pascal and DX11 design put me off.
 
jigger said:
I bought a GTX480 in the hope I could tame it. That card got slaughtered but not becuase of how much power it pulled but because it was too slow by 50%. The focus group never understood that. The path Nvidia was on with Fermi was the right path. Nvidia just lost the bottle to respin, fix the problems and stick with the 300watt plus high end design.
Click to expand...

There is where you went wrong - should have bought the 470 - stuck 1.1v on it and clocked it to like 900MHz - top end performance for the time while more tameable than the 480 and a lot cheaper - sure the 1.28GB VRAM eventually became a limiting factor but by that point you'd want to be upgrading anyhow.

At stock my 470s didn't even run that hot in SLI (with good case cooling):

mTmTOnU.png
 
Rroff said:
There is where you went wrong - should have bought the 470 - stuck 1.1v on it and clocked it to like 900MHz - top end performance for the time while more tameable than the 480 and a lot cheaper - sure the 1.28GB VRAM eventually became a limiting factor but by that point you'd want to be upgrading anyhow.

At stock my 470s didn't even run that hot in SLI (with good case cooling):

mTmTOnU.png
Click to expand...

Why the 5850 was just better, but a full Fermi core would have been better again.
 
jigger said:
Why the 5850 was just better, but a full Fermi core would have been better again.
Click to expand...

5850 were good cards but a lot of the 470s would overclock like there was no tomorrow - hugely under-rated due to the low out the box clock - going from 607MHz to 800Mhz with no voltage adjustment was achievable on most and 900MHz wasn't unobtainable with unlocked voltage.

jigger said:
For me the price of Vega is too high and with hindsight I would probably buy a 1070 at launch. But again the price of Pascal and DX11 design put me off.
Click to expand...

They are kind of moot arguments when you've stuck with a 290X though :p
 
Rroff said:
5850 were good cards but a lot of the 470s would overclock like there was no tomorrow - hugely under-rated due to the low out the box clock - going from 607MHz to 800Mhz with no voltage adjustment was achievable on most and 900MHz wasn't unobtainable with unlocked voltage.



They are kind of moot arguments when you've stuck with a 290X though :p
Click to expand...

The 470 was about as good as it's price. The 5850 was better.

Why are they moot arguments. Those are the reasons I've stuck with the 290X and TBH its performance is relatively good with newer titles.

With the the new API's maybe upgrading the CPU to one with a higher core count might offer some extra performance.
 
Actually it looks like the minimums might improve with a 1700 and 290X. Maybe quad cores are finished, at least Intel i5 and i7 chip at current prices.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom