Vista keeps on crashing...

yantorsen · 18 Oct 2007 at 21:08

Ice On Fire said:
I'm still pointing at your hard drive. Do you have onboard VGA?

not that I know of? my board has a video output though?

yantorsen · 18 Oct 2007 at 22:42

Ice On Fire said:
Same thing. Remove graphics card and plug it into the onboard video, see what happens.

I can't i havn't got the right cable, it's not the same type of output as the 8800gtx's. It's like an older style video output can't remember what there called.

yantorsen · 18 Oct 2007 at 22:45

SkeeterPSA said:
When u installed vista, how long did it take before you got errors by the way. Have you thought its something ** installing straight after u installed vista? I mean have you tryed not installing anything after vista has done installing and checking after each new thing added if probs start as that might find the culprit.

Still think its a bios issue like but was woundering about this today if ** installing somit dodgy hence all the probs start.

my problems started from, when i was installing windows, crashed several time when trying to install it. although that was when i had ram at wrong voltages, and I have since installed without it crashing on the installation process.

I have checked after every new driver I installed, for errors, but i didn't get any, atleast nothing majar apart from a few programs not responding, like start menu and things. but I didn't get any real errors until I wanted to install any games or even programs like messenger.

and skeeter im planning on updating the bios tomorow morning, once I've done some more research on bios flashing.

yantorsen · 18 Oct 2007 at 23:32

d.chatten said:
@yantorsen,

Could you post exactly what hardware you have, eg: mobo make & model, ram make, model & amount, cpu type & model, hdd, cd/dvd rom, etc, etc.

If you do this i will find all the drivers you need and any microsoft hot fixes that may help, if then it still doesn't work just post back and at least we then know if it is hardware or software related.

BTW, there is one golden rule when installing drivers, that is to install the chipset drivers first.

well i'm just using the vista drivers for the chipset atm, because the ones I downloaded didn't work they were corrupt.

my specs are as follows ( i can post peripheral aswell if you need it):

CPU: Intel Core 2 Quads Q6600 G0 Stepping

RAM: Corsair XMS2 PC5300 667MHZ 2GB (2x1GB) Timings: 4-4-4-12

GPU: Scan OEM Nvidia 8800 GTX

MOBO: Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R (not sure which revision it is to be honest)

HDD: Western Digital 320GB AAKS (WD3200AAKS)

ODD: Lite-On DVD-RW (not sure on the exact model)

CASE: Akasa Zen

PSU: Corsair HX 520W

WIFI: Abit AirPace PCI-E Wireless Adapter Card

Thanks, Yanto.

yantorsen · 18 Oct 2007 at 23:33

Pea0n said:
VGA, you can buy VGA --> DVI adaptors on the highs street pretty cheaply, and DVI --> VGA if needed also

- Pea0n

/i think i may have one in the garage, but I'll have to have a look tomorow, it's light enough to see.

yantorsen · 18 Oct 2007 at 23:46

SkeeterPSA said:
Maybe you should post a link to the other topic in gfx section forums so ppl know more, cos these 2 topics are basically the same thing were discussing.

Btw did you try not using the wifi card at all. And did you ever try to find out what bios your using at the mo. Before you try flashin ** mb with new bios. It might have f4 on already (doubtful tho). Most off the shelf ones come with F2 i hear.

I don't know how to check the motherboards current bios, I can't find it anywhere within the bios itself. and I have tryed it without the wifi card, and it still has the same problems, infact if anything more problems.

like you said this thread and my other one were origanlly about different things but they've gradually become the same thing... so heres the link to the other thread to save me going over stuff...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17784815 feel free to post in either thread though.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:01

SkeeterPSA said:
Bios can be seen when ** booting up, its on the first screen the pc displays while booting. Just hit Pause/Break Key when its on that screen and look for somit like F2 or F3 etc. Probably near the top of the screen.

Cpu-z if you can get it working will show bios revision as well i think. Possibly dxdiag as well (yeah it does just checked well not version but by date we might be able to find which it is ** on)

i couldn't see the revision of it on there. I'll check again now though and post back.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:04

nope I couldn't find where it says it in the bios, or on the opeing screen saying what you're mobo is etc..

I'll have another go at downloading cpu-z now.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:10

d.chatten said:
Before you start make shure you memory voltage is set to 2.1v in the bios, i have the same ram in my second system and this is the recommended voltage for this ram.

Intel chipset drivers, make shure you download these driver to your C: drive, install these as follows, disable UAC by going to Start and click on your user picture at the top of the start menu, in the box that pops up click on "Turn User Account Control on or off", restart when prompted, now goto > Start > All Programs > Accessories, right click "Command Promt" and select "Run as administator" in the cmd window type C:\infinst_autol.exe -OVERALL and press enter.

NVIDIA GFX drivers, to install these drivers, right click the downloaded .exe file and select "Run as administator".

Realtek sound drivers dowload this file > "Vista Driver(32/64 bits) Driver only (Executable file)", to install these drivers, right click the downloaded .exe file and select "Run as administator".

Abit AirPace WiFi

Hope this helps!

cheers mate,

yep that certianly helps, I installed all my drivers slightly differnetly to that, so I'll give that a shot. And acording to the corsair sight (last time I looked) the recomended ram voltage was 1.9v?

thanks, yanto.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:27

d.chatten said:
What rev is the ram, the XMS2 5300 i have are rev 1.2 and another set that is rev 1.3, both are rated to run at 2.1v.

I have just checked your ram on the corsair website and it does infact say 1.9v, so set it at the rated voltage of 1.9v

rightio it's at 1.9 now, i'll try reinstalling the drivers, tomorow when i have more time, its late now lol and im tired...

thanks.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 00:30

just chcked the board and it's a Rev 1.1, if that helps.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 13:43

ahh yeah that could be the problem my northbridge heatsink is absolutly boiling, the northbridge is the big copper heatsink saying gigabyte on it, right nest to the cpu, yeah?

mem volt's are at +0.1v, and my dad's taken my usb stick to work again. so I'm gonna flash the bios tonight.

yanto.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 14:27

wouldn't over heating usually cause just random shut downs, like an everheating cpu would?

and I don't have any fans to put over it. Well if it shouldn't be getting that hot anyway then I'll get it replaced.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 14:43

if you update the bios from windows do you still need a usb stick?

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 16:01

right so i just download the new bios and run it?

and I installed all the drivers you sent links to, and they all install properly, except I still can't get sound to work, and games still don't play.

I can get it to play the samples on the realtek hd audio manager, but not on the internet or on wmp or anything else.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 16:36

that page says:

"Make sure you have a functional floppy disk with the correct BIOS version for your motherboard. "

I'm asuming that a USB stick will also be fine?

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 16:43

SkeeterPSA said:
Duno mate. Floppy or bios iso burned to cd or somit would work.

oh right, I thought I read somewhere that you could only use a floppy or a USB stick.

So bascailly I burn the ISO onto a CD, then boot from the CD, and it will take me from there? Or do I have to use "Q-Flash"?

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 16:51

yeah, i'll have a go at it,

I've just realised I'm an hour late for my paper round! lol, i'll do it when I get back

Yanto.

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 18:25

yantorsen · 19 Oct 2007 at 23:32

yep thanks, I put some better quality pictures of those errors on the other thread btw.

I'll try doing it through windows like you've just described, I tryed doing it from my USB stick, but it wasn't recognising it in the Q-Flash utility in the BIOS.