VM Upstream Traffic Management Trial 1st of February

What's with the sad face? The limits are more than fair. Not many legal users will be uploading between 3-6GB a night during peak times. Since I'm assuming most people are on the 20-50Mb packages.

Why should my speeds suffering downloading off Steam etc because someone else in the area is hammering their connection?
 
It will be interesting to see how opinion shifts when the subscription based on-demand movie services arrive in this country, with a couple of family members watching different things we will very quickly exceed the 'acceptable' limit, and bearing in mind these apply during 'prime-time' when we are watching movies, tv etc it's going to be interesting. I foresee another 'toys out cot' session similar to when some ISPs tried to force the BBC to pay to upgrade their networks because iPlayer was putting an 'unfair' burden on their infrastructure. Given that at decent resolution it would only take about 20 minutes to fall foul of the regs on the 30Mb package, I think consumers will be quite justified in their complaints when the movie falls over 20 minutes in. ;)
 
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When those services arrive the FUPs during the current peak hours will also change accordingly to suit those new services as they have done now with the new speed increases.

Going by current changes they should still be pretty fair especially compared to other ISPs.
 
The fact that I have 19 friends that all use P2P for illegal means, and I don't.

It's very clear to most people that P2P for the very large majority is a method of sharing illegal files. Yes there are a very small amount of files available legally, and a number of non "torrent" P2P systems for legitimate use, and should those people get caught out then it's a shame.

althou baseing your figures around a small number of ppl who happen to know doesn't make them close to the truth.

i could say it the other way round, i only know a few ppl, maybe 10-20 or so, that use p2p to illgeally download stuff, on the other hand, i know 1000's who use torrents legitamtly

so i could just as easily say that only 1% use it illegeally.

doesn't make me any more right thou, as its clearly not.

im pretty sure that its not even close to 95%, considering theres over 10 million subscribers to WoW which uses torrent for its updates, so thats 10 million legit users straight away.

lots of games are using it now to distribute large patches as well, plus a lot of linux downloads is done via bittorrent.


personally thou, im not too bothered about capping p2p, but i'll be screwed if they blocked ftp as i use that a lot
 
im pretty sure that its not even close to 95%, considering theres over 10 million subscribers to WoW which uses torrent for its updates, so thats 10 million legit users straight away.

lots of games are using it now to distribute large patches as well, plus a lot of linux downloads is done via bittorrent.

ISP's have no issues with legit torrent users who fairly infrequently download largish amounts of data, the problem is the users that think it's their god given right to max out their connections 24/7 downloading anything and everything.
 
When those services arrive the FUPs during the current peak hours will also change accordingly to suit those new services as they have done now with the new speed increases.

Going by current changes they should still be pretty fair especially compared to other ISPs.

Also isps might start offering other packages that don't have as many restrictions for a higher fee. You want to use more, you pay a higher fee.
 
To be fair, 95% of P2P is illegal stuff so capping it for the rest of the us can only be a good thing. I realise that this also affects 5% of legit users, but I'm guessing most legit users don't continually use that much bandwidth during peak time.

just wait until steam downloads get throttled its going to happen
 
What's with the sad face? The limits are more than fair. Not many legal users will be uploading between 3-6GB a night during peak times. Since I'm assuming most people are on the 20-50Mb packages.

Why should my speeds suffering downloading off Steam etc because someone else in the area is hammering their connection?


Maybe I am just one of the silly people that think they should get what they pay for.
And as for steam it's most likely you have too many people on your UBR and that's VMs fault.
 
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