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Yep but if you use brown/wholewheat pasta is a good complex carb and so is cous cous, just dont go nuts make lean protein and vegtables the main bulk and have the carbs as a side
 
tom_e said:
Yep but if you use brown/wholewheat pasta is a good complex carb and so is cous cous, just dont go nuts make lean protein and vegtables the main bulk and have the carbs as a side
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Thanks! I see my lunch at work as one of the worst health areas for me...I mean dinner or breakfast is at home and therefore I, in theory, have a selection of foods I can choose from.

but lunch at work, I have what I take with me and thats it really - no I cant afford to go to Pret a Manger and buy a £4 salad a day i'm afriad :p

My usual lunch is probably the same as I used to take to school really! two sandwiches (tho these days its sometimes a wrap which werent really around in the 80's/90's!), a packet of crisps, an apple (if there's any in the house) and sometimes a small bit of chocolate, like a mini mars, a single-finger twix or something.

So to me, if I can change that to be something better than thats a good basis for the changes I want to make!
 
Justin said:
8.5 lbs in 5 days? Well that isn't dangerous.
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Not at all, most will be water weight.

Swampyseifer said:
My current diet (weekday)....
Breakfast - Never - So your metabolism will slow throughout the morning.
Lunch - generally a cheese sandwich or a caesar wrap - Carbs (sugar) + fat. The carbs cause an insulin spike which will cause fat storage.
Dinner - Usually something like cottage pie, chicken breast with "healthy" oven chips and veg or pasta in out-of-jar sauce - Healthy chips... er. The sauce will be full of sugar, pasta is just carbs again.
Liquids - a mix of flavoured bottle water or watered-down cordial....maybe a can of coke if I'm feeling it - Cordial is again, just sugar.
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Eat more meat, nuts, fish and dairy. Less carbs, if you must then go for wholegrain.

kai said:
Burn more calories than you consume, your body has no option but to use up stored fat. I know it’s easy for me to say that but there must be some catalyst in your diet.
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That's not strictly true. If you cut your calorific intake too much your body will respond by using less energy.
 
At this weight it really is just case of eating less and moving more. I wouldn't worry about the carb / fat / protein balance within reason. When you've lost 7 or 8 stone and start to plateau then you can refine the diet.
 
wishing you the best in your journey :) - you'll get there

I've lost quite a bit of weight over the last 6 months, as I'd got to a point where lots of friends and family were saying gosh you've got "large" - didn't feel good :( I didn't want to go swimming from embarassment, I struggled to keep up with the kids etc. So one day Ijust said to myself enoughs enough - and that was the start of my journey.

I try and think of food as "fuel" now, every piece of food that goes into my mouth has to have a use and count.

Hardest thing at first was cutting out the foods I liked (I ate healthy food but loved bad for me food too) - but after a few months the cravings stopped <mostly> and don't really miss them anymore:

Fizzy drinks, Chocolate, Crisps, Alcohol

I was a non-breakfast person too - 90% of days I'd skip breakfast completely until I got to work. I've began to realise it was partly as I was eating snacks till late at night, and in the morning I genuinely was not hungry. Now I wake up and look forward to breakfast - its very bizarre.

and then exercise, exercise, exercise. I do admit its difficult at first though, both physcologically and physically. But keep it going and you get used to it. I actually "miss" my rest days from the gym now.

good luck.
 
I have been using Promax whey "diet" recently and I have to say its a great food suppresant. I just dont feel hungry at all. My objective is to reach 76.2 kilo's (12 stone) and 8-10 % BF.

With a low glycemic diet and cardio after every workout, I have see staggering changes. Really psyched about hitting my targets...
 
well here is my list of foods/drinks yesterday. As for any excersise, nothing other than walking from home to the train station and walking back again at night...which is probably about 15 mins between them, tho walking back at night is uphill!!

Breakfast:
30g of shop-brand frosties with semi-skimmed milk

mid-morning:
2 plain white rolls

lunch:
packet of niknaks and a single-finger bar of timeout

dinner:
two small chicken breasts with veg (brocolli, cauliflower, carrot and peas)

Drink:
1 litre of flavoured water, half a pint of fresh orange juice and a cup of cocoa for bedtime :D
 
Sent a thingy majjig to your trust, i lost 12 stone since feb 2009, now im at 12, we need to talk man, this is more motivation and sticking to it than anything.

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I know they are just face shots but i dont have a proper camera, in the before photo i am nearly 24 stone and the most recent 12 and a half, it took a lot of hard work and motivation to loose weight, dont expect it to just fall off because you want it to, aswell as that i go to the gym 5 times a week and have gotten my body fat % down to 13% nearly 12% though and overall body muscle is at 48%, so trust me it is possible, you just need to stick at it and stay away from the cr** foods and drinks, turn into a health nut for a while, trust me it pays off.
 
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well here is my list of foods/drinks yesterday. As for any excersise, nothing other than walking from home to the train station and walking back again at night...which is probably about 15 mins between them, tho walking back at night is uphill!!

Breakfast:
30g of shop-brand frosties with semi-skimmed milk

mid-morning:
2 plain white rolls

lunch:
packet of niknaks and a single-finger bar of timeout

dinner:
two small chicken breasts with veg (brocolli, cauliflower, carrot and peas)

Drink:
1 litre of flavoured water, half a pint of fresh orange juice and a cup of cocoa for bedtime :D
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Well you eat cr**, plain and simple, cut out the shop brand frosties and replace with bran flakes normal sized portion not mountain, trust me i know :P, semi skimmed and some fruit.

Mid morning, white rolls are a huge no no, replace with fruit .

Lunch, again your eating cr**, replace this with a healthy salad of some sort, NO CHEESE, its pure fat.

Dinner, well thats quite perfect, just stay away from the other things as you will never get anywhere.

Drink, flavoured water is full of sugar and chemicals, stay away from it, if your thirsty drink normal tap water or evian.
 
yeah I saw it dude, thanks...I will look into it and get back in touch!

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I'm also trying to write up a list of things to buy, which if no one minds I will post here to get feedback on anything unnecesary stuff or things that are missing
 
DF1986 said:
Well you eat cr**, plain and simple, cut out the shop brand frosties and replace with bran flakes normal sized portion not mountain, trust me i know :P, semi skimmed and some fruit.

Mid morning, white rolls are a huge no no, replace with fruit .

Lunch, again your eating cr**, replace this with a healthy salad of some sort, NO CHEESE, its pure fat.

Dinner, well thats quite perfect, just stay away from the other things as you will never get anywhere.

Drink, flavoured water is full of sugar and chemicals, stay away from it, if your thirsty drink normal tap water or evian.
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Thanks for taking the time to view the list...

I know the breakfast isnt ideal, but at this time of the month, money is running down so I'm eating what is in the kitchen tbh...to me, cutting it from a bowlful to just the recommended 30g is amazing enough to start! lol

again, the rolls are there and need eating. tbh its not so much as they were my mid-morning snack, more that they were part of my lunch that didnt make it to lunch time :P

I agree that the crisps and choc for lunch is crap, but again its not like I have anything else in the house to be bringing atm.

dinner was actually really nice...I felt like I could eat more aterward...but I wasnt feeling hungry. So thats a good thing, I was one of those people that felt you'd had enough when you felt full! I just busied myself with something else (trying to break my own highscores on GH2!)

drink...tbh I know its pansy-ish but I *hate* pure water...I know I need to drink it and I will but I think that I need to ween myself from the coke so I was thinking that going to flavoured water was a lesser of two evils really. Once I dont feel the want for sugar-laced liquids then I'll start maybe watering down my flavoured water and work towards just water
 
Swampyseifer said:
drink...tbh I know its pansy-ish but I *hate* pure water...I know I need to drink it and I will but I think that I need to ween myself from the coke so I was thinking that going to flavoured water was a lesser of two evils really. Once I dont feel the want for sugar-laced liquids then I'll start maybe watering down my flavoured water and work towards just water
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I think squash with no added sugar/sweetners or artificial crap would be fine, just don't mix it too strong.
 
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so my list so far contains

- normal pasta to be wholewheat pasta
- normal rice to be wholewheat rice
- cut out micromeals...maybe a WeightWatches one if I'm really desperate
- no crisps, sweets, chocolate or fizzy drink
- bottles of flavoured water or no/low sugar cordial
- 1 small thincrust pizza
- skimmed milk only
- more, and only, lean meat
- bag of apples, bananas, grapes (mix of red and white) and oranges
- a punnet of raspberries or strawberries (if not too expensive when off season!)
- greek yoghurt
- a bag of almonds, hazlenuts and walnuts
- carrots, cauliflower, mushrooms, brocolli, corn cobs, potatoes and other veg
- tins of unsweetened sweetcorn
- a few big bags of couscous
- lettuce, beetroot, peppers, cucumber, tomatoes and other stuff
 
Cut out the thin crust pizza, greek yoghurt, couscous and so many nuts, a few nuts are good for the essential fats that your body needs but too many and youll be back to square one.
Apart from that, that looks like a very good diet :)
 
Also, don't go too overboard with the grapes, they contain a hell of a lot of sugar. I know it sounds silly, but grapes are one of those fruits that are very "morish", before you know it, you've gone through an entire bag in one sitting.

Just remember, everything in moderation.
 
DF1986 said:
Cut out the thin crust pizza, greek yoghurt, couscous and so many nuts, a few nuts are good for the essential fats that your body needs but too many and youll be back to square one.
Apart from that, that looks like a very good diet :)
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Hi

I was looking at it that a thincrust was a good way to get more veg in my diet (as toppings) and being a thin crust I was taking away as much of the carb as I could, by reducing the base?

Same with the yoghurt, I thought mixing in fruit or nuts with it would be a good way to get me eating those things.

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I didnt know grapes were that sugary, thanks for the headsup!
 
As a bit of a tip, you say you want to a make a lifestyle change. This is so so much easier once you start eating more fruit + healthy foods. No ready meals etc.

You will find you have more energy and you will have more control of your daily intake of food. This added control and energy will give you what you need to be motivated to change things in your life you are not happy with.

Good luck!

Sorry only just noticed that list you put up and that sounds exactly like what you need! Keep it up and you will be so happy you did!
 
Swampyseifer said:
As for any excersise, nothing other than walking from home to the train station and walking back again at night...which is probably about 15 mins between them, tho walking back at night is uphill!!
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Well done on posting an honest account, but you need to fix this (exercise)

I got home from work late last night. Felt knackered, had a list of TV programs I wanted to watch etc, but still dragged myself reluctantly to the freezing cold garage to spend a hard hour on the bike turbo trainer (I don't stay freezing cold for long lol). Its not easy, and theres always an excuse to do something else, but it has to be done. I do this because I know that if I don't I will a) put weight on over time and b) not achieve my targets for next race season.

You know what? The resulting dinner and TV session felt so much more rewarding :)
 
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