We're all organ doners now...

el_dazza said:
I genuinely can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading in here.
You're dead. You have no use for those organs. Give someone else a chance at life that needs it.
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As an expert in dying how do you know that those organs have no bearing on what happens next?

FYI I don't believe anything happens (ie lights out and no more, heaven and hell are tosh etc etc) but some religions believe otherwise and nobody knows!

As for the back of the queue comments, thats really not how our society works or we wouldn't be treating criminals for anything.
 
Semple said:
I get the point your making, but it's rather ironic that people who are on the transplant list are least likely to be able to opt-in to these things due to damage to their organs.
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I think it would be fair to exempt anyone currently awaiting a transplant from my comment :)

However...those of good health who are opting out now should have some weighting against them in their placement on any future transplant lists.
 
I am being the devil's advocate here but maybe over a certain age with your life in the balence, you may get a do not resuscitate tag hung on your bed, for a younger person waiting for your bits (think my liver will go in bin, too much pinotage)
 
moon man said:
I am being the devil's advocate here but maybe over a certain age with your life in the balence, you may get a do not resuscitate tag hung on your bed, for a younger person waiting for your bits (think my liver will go in bin, too much pinotage)
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no it won't

plus if you knew anything about resuscitation they do not resuscitate for a reason in many cases, even young people. 9 times out of 10 you would be a vegetable for the rest of your life or extremely hampered in more than 1 way. it's not like the movies where your up and mobile again within 5 minutes.
 
peige said:
As for the back of the queue comments, thats really not how our society works or we wouldn't be treating criminals for anything.
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I'd disagree with that, a criminal makes a decision to commit a crime and the consequence may be prison, fine or some other means of punishment that reduces how they live in society. A restriction has been applied, the same applies to the Opt Out choice, you choose to not do something that would benefit society therefore there is a restrictive consequence.
 
I don't think I have ever had an organ doner. Meat or chicken with a splash of chilli. Or does the OP mean donor?
 
peige said:
As an expert in dying how do you know that those organs have no bearing on what happens next?
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Well the worms might go a bit more hungry but I can't see what happens to biological matter even if we transcend some inter-dimensional boundary if you believe that sort of thing.

But you can opt out, so it's a non issue.
 
G-MAN2004 said:
No, not that one. :p That was a joke.

This:
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Doctors do make mistakes they are human after all. However I would say that is rare and not really something that happens on a regular basis. After all the UK hands out much bigger fines. In fact I've seen millions handed out to individual cases of incompetence by the NHS. The fines handed out by the state in the US just shows you how broken their health system is. They should be 20 times what they were minimum.

Plus chances are you would have family in hospital with you, etc.

That woman was in a self induced drug overdose which probably made her look like she was dead due to the muscle relaxants she had taken far too much of.

I think it's pretty far fetched to think that might happen so better not help save lives just in case.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
no it won't

plus if you knew anything about resuscitation they do not resuscitate for a reason in many cases, even young people. 9 times out of 10 you would be a vegetable for the rest of your life or extremely hampered in more than 1 way. it's not like the movies where your up and mobile again within 5 minutes.
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Uh interesting, maybe Google devil's advocate, and. My daughters a doctor no need to try and. Educate me, try yourself first
 
CosmicClown said:
Yeah was disgusted when I found out.

Opted straight out.

Don't want anyone elses organs either, thanks.

If mine bugger up I'll accept death graciously.
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So a kid gets hit by a car, they need a life saving transplant, your recently harvested organs would have been a perfect match, but they die because you're too disgusted about something that happens after you die? I don't get it.
 
bloodiedathame said:
So a kid gets hit by a car, they need a life saving transplant, your recently harvested organs would have been a perfect match, but they die because you're too disgusted about something that happens after you die? i don't get it.
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I have the RIGHT to decide what happens to my organs when I die.

Whats not to get?

Nice little emotional hypothetical there.....lol

'THINK OF A DYING BABY' *facepalm*
 
tom_nieto said:
There still remains a consent process [..]
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Not really, no.

Here's a scenario about consent:

A person is unconscious. Is it OK to use them for sexual purposes?

1) Opt-in. No, it isn't. They are not giving consent.
2) Opt-out. Yes, it is. They are not not giving consent. They are not actively saying "no".

Maccy said:
I'm amazed anyone would be against this, you can potentially save a life and you'll be dead anyway so what's the issue?!
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Consent. See above.

I notice that many people are conflating the ethics of organ donation with the ethics of consent. That's at best confused and at worst deceitful. They are two completely different and seperate issues.
 
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