Soldato
4 580s on a single card capable of 4way sli!!!
Not going to happen but would be interesting to see
Not going to happen but would be interesting to see
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what are we expecting to see ( next gen )
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Soldato
I think the biggest problem facing AMD and Nvidia's graphics departments is the ATX 300 watt spec which both companies seemingly don't want to break. I don't know if the spec will increase with the advent of PCI 3.0 but if it doesn't the next generation or at least the 28nm refresh will be more about performance per watt rather then overall performance.
That was their biggest problem Freddie, but they're now getting around it. It was the same wall that Intel/AMD hit too.
It seems to take a few years to affect their designs but the next gen is going to be far more performance per watt than the last gen, more than just the die shrink would indicate.
It seems to take a few years to affect their designs but the next gen is going to be far more performance per watt than the last gen, more than just the die shrink would indicate.
Soldato
Just more power that isn't needed for 97% of people. When the new consoles come out, thats when game developers will start to produce games that require powerful PC hardware.
Like last time, the console will initially be more powerful than the average PC, probably around the same as a lower upper range PC. However, over the next 2/3 years, PCs will start pulling ahead again.
Like last time, the console will initially be more powerful than the average PC, probably around the same as a lower upper range PC. However, over the next 2/3 years, PCs will start pulling ahead again.
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Its all about next gen consoles, I think next gen will happen once 28nm really hits.
Amd will be going for the jugular this time, they will want to performance crown. They have invested in the sacling, not the straight line performance of their cpus/gpus- time will tell if this will pay- I think it will.
Heat is a real issue for consoles so 28nm will be a real boon. I think the pc world will be ready first, but there should be a real leap...look at what happened to the COD makers; their shares where what is known as a ten bagger- as in the share went tenfold up on a decent amount of time. This and other things have made games studios viable investments.
The absolute best thing is that console users now want not just kinda pc functionality, they want full pc functionality. This really bodes well, as the best way to make a pc, is to build one!
Amd will be going for the jugular this time, they will want to performance crown. They have invested in the sacling, not the straight line performance of their cpus/gpus- time will tell if this will pay- I think it will.
Heat is a real issue for consoles so 28nm will be a real boon. I think the pc world will be ready first, but there should be a real leap...look at what happened to the COD makers; their shares where what is known as a ten bagger- as in the share went tenfold up on a decent amount of time. This and other things have made games studios viable investments.
The absolute best thing is that console users now want not just kinda pc functionality, they want full pc functionality. This really bodes well, as the best way to make a pc, is to build one!
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i really don't understand why your all so hooked up on the next gen consoles, they are not going to be hitting the stores for a year or so after the next generation of gpu's from Nvidia and AMD, now don't get me wrong the next generation of gpu's might very well be the ones used in the next consoles, but I very much doubt that that prospect would effect the design of the gpu's, which really have probably in the final stages of design already with just with the tweaking and the actual production needed.
Personally I don't believe we'll be seeing a next-gen PS or XBox for a long time. Back in 2008, there was an article predicting the next gen wouldn't arribe till at least 2012, but could be as late as 2018. I've read articles suggesting the old 5 year lifespan has been replaced by a 10 year one (so 2015-2016), with instead of new consoles in the mean-time, we get revisions, software upgrades via internet (which they couldn't do in previous gen), and new features like kinext and move.
I do think a Wii HD will arrive sooner, but the Wii isn't exactly the same as the other consoles- it has more room to grow, technology-wise. A simple upgrade to HD graphics and a few other minor improvements could be touted as a major new launch, and be backwards-compatible.
Over to the topic subject.
I think the first generation of cards on 28nm will be an improvement improvement in power, but certainly not doubling as some have suggested. I expect the top end single GPU cards of the two manufacturers will probably be more alike than they are now - nvidia maybe narrowing the gap on performance per watt, and ATI narrowing the gap on raw power.
I do think a Wii HD will arrive sooner, but the Wii isn't exactly the same as the other consoles- it has more room to grow, technology-wise. A simple upgrade to HD graphics and a few other minor improvements could be touted as a major new launch, and be backwards-compatible.
Over to the topic subject.
I think the first generation of cards on 28nm will be an improvement improvement in power, but certainly not doubling as some have suggested. I expect the top end single GPU cards of the two manufacturers will probably be more alike than they are now - nvidia maybe narrowing the gap on performance per watt, and ATI narrowing the gap on raw power.
Soldato
Because its all on the software side atm. Most PC games are multiplatform, and therefore have the limitations of the consoles limited power.
yes the software development might very well be, but how is that relevant to the question the opening poster asked here it is again just to refresh your memory
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Same crap all over again, deja vu anyone? The cycle of next gen consoles will happen again and it will be an exact repeat of last time. All that hype of HD gaming, COD Black Ops isnt even 720P on either console!!! Its all marketing hype and BS
This is exactly the same thing that was strewn around everywhere 6/7 years ago with a load of CGI fake videos, remember the PS3 Kill Zone footage which turned out to be CGI and people were saying it was real PS3 footage!? I'm surprised Sony didnt get sued for that.
Consoles will catch up, maybe even take the lead for a few months but its inevitable that the PC will continue to move forward and leave the next gen of consoles behind
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Maybe the games makers should try releasing a more expensive 'cutting edge'version of the games and charge extra.There used to be premium pressings of vinyl records for audiophile top end hi-fi owners and people were happy to pay extra for the work that went into this?.
Did you play the Killzone 3 beta? Amazing what they have managed to pull off with the hardware.
No way in hell could a similair speced PC come even near it.
And during 2005/2005 most PC's had Pentuim D processor which were utter garbage while PS3 had 8 SPE's running at 3.2Ghz
Nice beafy rig below but shame about the framerate
GTA4
My FPS were dropping into the low 30's at times while playing this evening
The ingame benchmark test don't go below 60fps but when playing the game it drops
i7 2600k-@4600mhz,8Gb ram,SLI GTX 580's
Nice rig chap but is gta4 that demanding?.
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i want to see PROPER water in games. i heard just cause 2 looks sweet but im waiting till i get some nvidia cards
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gta 4 is well deanding, prob more so than crysis when draw distance is up
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmm cheese