What do people think to the new MBP?

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 06:57

If you can free up the space on the HDD then I'd be very tempted to wait for the expected Kaby Lake refresh which should be about June. Faster, more efficient, CPUs will allow them to fit 32Gb RAM and there is also a rumour that when they drop the MacBook Air then the non-touchbar 13" will get a significant price cut.

This current range of MacBook Pros is a very poor offer given the price but Apple can't just drop the price so the refresh will come fast and there will be more performance for the same money hopefully.

DanF · 17 Jan 2017 at 09:55

The performance difference between the current and kabylake cpu's will be tiny, under 5%. Should give a bit more battery life though. Same with 32gb ram, there's only a few usercases that actually need that much ram.

Soootylad · 17 Jan 2017 at 10:11

A lot of people are unhappy with the price over here but at the end of the day we voted for Brexit and it smacked the pound around - We made our own bed and all that!

Spit · 17 Jan 2017 at 10:31

There is no way we are getting Kaby Lake refreshes in June.

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 10:37

DanF said:
The performance difference between the current and kabylake cpu's will be tiny, under 5%. Should give a bit more battery life though. Same with 32gb ram, there's only a few usercases that actually need that much ram.

This is all true, but if there is no NEED to upgrade now, I'd much rather spend £3500 on a 32Gb Kaby Lake machine in June or July than £3000 on the older tech 16Gb machine now. Simply because it will last a bit longer with more RAM.

DanF · 17 Jan 2017 at 10:42

are you really going to keep this laptop long enough to get the benefit out of 32gb ram? Most people buying top spec laptops seem to change them fairly often.

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 10:43

Soootylad said:
A lot of people are unhappy with the price over here but at the end of the day we voted for Brexit and it smacked the pound around - We made our own bed and all that!

Brexit and the weak pound is a red herring. Go to Apple.com/de and price up the same machine and you will find it's more expensive in Euro than in Sterling. I can buy the same machine with a German keyboard and OS for less in the UK than I can in Germany, so either they are subsidising our market or the Europeans are REALLY getting ripped off.

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 10:44

DanF said:
are you really going to keep this laptop long enough to get the benefit out of 32gb ram? Most people buying top spec laptops seem to change them fairly often.

Do you REALLY need 16Gb? The problem is you can't upgrade it afterwards so it makes sense to get the most you can from the start. There are people selling 2010 MacBooks in MM for reasonable money so why not max out the machine?

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 10:45

Spit said:
There is no way we are getting Kaby Lake refreshes in June.

The great thing about this game is we just have to wait and see. I read Macrumors every day and they're right more often than wrong.

DanF · 17 Jan 2017 at 12:58

I guess it's your cash

16 is good for me just due to the stuff I do on it, 32 would be overkill personally. My main dev pc only has 16 and doesn't max out when working on pretty large projects.

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 15:32

DanF said:
I guess it's your cash

16 is good for me just due to the stuff I do on it, 32 would be overkill personally. My main dev pc only has 16 and doesn't max out when working on pretty large projects.

The thing is, it's stupid money. When you're spending £3500 on a laptop you almost might as well go the whole hog and spend £4500. Nothing in IT holds it's value like an Apple laptop. And the better the spec, the more you can get for it in future.

Soootylad · 17 Jan 2017 at 15:35

WJA96 said:
The thing is, it's stupid money. When you're spending £3500 on a laptop you almost might as well go the whole hog and spend £4500. Nothing in IT holds it's value like an Apple laptop. And the better the spec, the more you can get for it in future.

Thats a pretty weird way of looking at it - Of course the more you spend the more you get for it in the future, you also lose more. All the Apple gadgets depreciate at a similar and very favourable rate.

Soootylad · 17 Jan 2017 at 15:35

WJA96 said:
The thing is, it's stupid money. When you're spending £3500 on a laptop you almost might as well go the whole hog and spend £4500. Nothing in IT holds it's value like an Apple laptop. And the better the spec, the more you can get for it in future.

Thats a pretty weird way of looking at it - Of course the more you spend the more you get for it in the future, you also lose more. All the Apple gadgets depreciate at a similar and very favourable rate.

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 16:20

Soootylad said:
Thats a pretty weird way of looking at it - Of course the more you spend the more you get for it in the future, you also lose more. All the Apple gadgets depreciate at a similar and very favourable rate.

Not really. If it's bought by a business, then the current tax legislation allows you to write the value off fairly quickly. That has benefits depending on how the company chooses to dispose of the written-off IT equipment

And I disagree about all the Apple stuff depreciating at the same rate. Apple TVs, iPhone 6/6s/7 Plus and iMacs don't hold their value as well as the MacBook, Air and Pro, standard iPhone models and Mac Minis. But they are all very good in comparison to other IT suppliers stuff.

englishpremier · 17 Jan 2017 at 17:30

Two years depreciation. Machine disposed off at the end of life

WJA96 · 17 Jan 2017 at 18:07

englishpremier said:
Two years depreciation. Machine disposed off at the end of life

Isn't it 12 months if you use the Annual Investment Allowance? Or has that changed now?

englishpremier · 17 Jan 2017 at 18:30

Could be. My software only lets me do it over a minimum of 2 years, so I just go for that to make life easy for myself.

Spit · 23 Jan 2017 at 09:45

Installed Office 365 on my 15" TBMBP, the Touch Bar doesn't seem to be working with it?

NeedAUsername · 25 Jan 2017 at 13:29

Man, the speakers on this thing are outstanding, you really cant appreciate how good they are until you hear the garbage on Windows laptops.

MacRS4 · 25 Jan 2017 at 16:10

Spit said:
Installed Office 365 on my 15" TBMBP, the Touch Bar doesn't seem to be working with it?

I assume you mean Windows in BootCamp? It doesn't work under Windows, it should just offer up the normal function keys.