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What do you think of the 4070Ti?

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Trickle said:
PC Gaming is only expensive if you insist on ray-tracing or 4K 144hz.
Minimum ticket for ray-tracing on a 2K monitor is a £500 2nd hand 3080.
Otherwise you don't need to spend more than 250-300 (new) on a GPU. £100 on a processor. <£100 mobo for 2K gaming.
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And at that point why not just buy an xbox or ps5. You'd get a better experience for money.
 
harmattan said:
We are really at a turning point here. Either prices will swing back to normal, market-driven reality, or the market will normalize with prices being artificially propped up to beyond the pale (incidentally or "collaboratively") now by two companies that have capital to burn -- there's definitely a strategy they're playing. It's a game of chicken: on one side nV and AMD, and on the other the market.

PC gamers and the gaming industry is suffering at present, this much is clear.
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The game they are playing is against themselves, their historical financial quarters and recent performances, and its not one they can win, not with the strategy they are employing - which seems more akin to long-term commitment to triage to protect core metrics to present the shareholders.

All that's going to happen is the market segment is going to contract and both AMD and Nvidia (or initially their board partners) end up slipping to far down the pole of economies of scale, and fall deeper into a lower volume higher margin approach, and further erode the market.
At some point they may try and rebuild volume at the sacrifice of margins, assuming its not too late.

I'm pretty much resigned that my next card with the latest gen is seeing me out. After upgrading almost every other year since early 00's, essentially milking what was a mid range consumer 5x a decade, they've turned me away from a regular repeat customer to a one off buyer - and seeing as I have survived fine for 5 years on a rx580 I question more my need and motivations for upgrading! Honestly at this point it feels more like a 'for old times sake' more than anything.
 
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I've just seen an 'affordable pc build' with a 4070ti in it.... it's paired with a 12600k and the gpu is literally half the price of the build.... that's not an affordable build in my eyes lol

One good thing about the 4000 series is we are getting to see who are more interested in ensuring free stuff later on and and those who actually are more in tune with their viewers (albeit probably with the bank balances to allow it)
 
ncncore said:
Just watched all the reviews and it paints a dismal picture indeed. Still none the wiser on my upgrade path...
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How much of that picture is down to the hideous "three times faster" marketing lie vs the actual card itself. From what I can see, the price-to-performance ratio isn't that bad, when you factor in DLSS3 etc.
 
Rogueywon said:
How much of that picture is down to the hideous "three times faster" marketing lie vs the actual card itself. From what I can see, the price-to-performance ratio isn't that bad, when you factor in DLSS3 etc.
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And there it is.... its got DLSS 3, see, its not that bad.

We are paying hundreds of dollars for features now, you're buying DLSS bundled with something that can run it.
 
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humbug said:
My recent GPU's:

GTX 970. £270
GTX 1070. £340
RTX 2070 Super. £480

Seeing a pattern?

Well, RTX 4070Ti. £800...... and i'm out.

So what's next?
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And we all know that £800 will actually be £850-950. There is even talk of one being over £1000.

At this rate I'm going to be able to afford a 4020.
 
Rogueywon said:
How much of that picture is down to the hideous "three times faster" marketing lie vs the actual card itself. From what I can see, the price-to-performance ratio isn't that bad, when you factor in DLSS3 etc.
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This is exactly what I am struggling with.

In a way it is the most sensibble upgrade for me when considering cost/perf and the lower power draw. Just feels like a bad deal when reading/watching all the opinions and reviews. Although TTL @ OC3D seemed to put it a better way and make it seem more viable while still been disgruntled at the price, which is where I feel I sit with it.
 
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