Better the original ground breaking effects than the
What film did you watch last night?
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Better the original ground breaking effects than the
Completely disagree. It's all "USA, USA, USA".
Why did Chris Kyle go to war? In real life, for personal reasons, but the movie shows him looking at the TV set (no spoilers) and going to war because of "USA, USA".
Why did Chris Kyle return to Iraq? The movie tells you he looked at the TV set and once again "USA". To save more brave marines fighting evil savages.
Did Chris Kyle had a personal nemesis to keep returning for? In real life no, the olympic marksman Mustafa in the movie is based on single line describing rumour about a mythical sniper Kyle never personally encountered, but the movie is literally built around it.
What about drill wielding Butcher? It's also fiction. In which, unlike in Kyle's real life, the bad guys under the gun are always bad and always guilty, and good guys are always good, heroic and clean. Because of "USA".
Chris Kyle, the legend, was widely known to be "unverifiable". His personal score card while in service exceeded that verified by the US army by nearly 100 bodies. That's not uncommon. But after returning home, Kyle kept making further body count claims, this time based around American civilians. Like the story where he and his buddy sniped 30+ armed looters after hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. Or one of killing two armed carjackers in Dallas. Some put his stories between PTSD brackets, others couldn't. He was successfully sued for libel by someone identified in a TV interview as one of the baddies in his book, but they never met in real life...
You pick the actor that looks vaguely like the real person, you bulk him up for months to make him look like the real person, you teach him how to mimic real person, just to then tell us made up porkies? Not made up by Kyle, made up, dressed and cleaned up by Jason Hall on top of the book stories, as if Kyle's real, verifiable army career wasn't good enough and his post war life wasn't interesting enough for an evening movie...
So if it's terrible at being biopic of Chris Kyle, and it's bad at historical elements Iraq war movie, and the baddies are fiction and the goodies are fiction, then WTF do it at all in the name of the guy? Because nothing adds to "America, **** yeah" like "based on true story" at the beginning, even if you are completely going to town on the facts.
Why did Chris Kyle return to Iraq? The movie tells you he looked at the TV set and once again "USA". To save more brave marines fighting evil savages.
Did Chris Kyle had a personal nemesis to keep returning for? In real life no, the olympic marksman Mustafa in the movie is based on single line describing rumour about a mythical sniper Kyle never personally encountered, but the movie is literally built around it.
What about drill wielding Butcher? It's also fiction. In which, unlike in Kyle's real life, the bad guys under the gun are always bad and always guilty, and good guys are always good, heroic and clean. Because of "USA".
Chris Kyle, the legend, was widely known to be "unverifiable". His personal score card while in service exceeded that verified by the US army by nearly 100 bodies. That's not uncommon. But after returning home, Kyle kept making further body count claims, this time based around American civilians. Like the story where he and his buddy sniped 30+ armed looters after hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. Or one of killing two armed carjackers in Dallas. Some put his stories between PTSD brackets, others couldn't. He was successfully sued for libel by someone identified in a TV interview as one of the baddies in his book, but they never met in real life...
You pick the actor that looks vaguely like the real person, you bulk him up for months to make him look like the real person, you teach him how to mimic real person, just to then tell us made up porkies? Not made up by Kyle, made up, dressed and cleaned up by Jason Hall on top of the book stories, as if Kyle's real, verifiable army career wasn't good enough and his post war life wasn't interesting enough for an evening movie...
So if it's terrible at being biopic of Chris Kyle, and it's bad at historical elements Iraq war movie, and the baddies are fiction and the goodies are fiction, then WTF do it at all in the name of the guy? Because nothing adds to "America, **** yeah" like "based on true story" at the beginning, even if you are completely going to town on the facts.
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I watched Everly, but it's a pretty bad film. It has very little to redeem it to be honest, and only worth a 3/10.
I've also seen American Sniper - awesome film, and you can't really appreciate the horror of some of the stuff that went on (choosing whether to fire on a child), even when it's shown to you. I can't imagine what it must have been like for him. 9/10 from me.
American Heist has also been on my watch list, and it was pretty poor. I can't think what it is, but it reminds me of another film. I'd only score it a 4/10.
Final film I've seen recently is Earth to Echo. What a pile
I was kind of hoping for an updated Batteries Not Included, but it's not what I got. Instead I got some annoying kids and a mechanical owl. 4/10 again.
I think I'm going to have to try to find some better films!!
I've also seen American Sniper - awesome film, and you can't really appreciate the horror of some of the stuff that went on (choosing whether to fire on a child), even when it's shown to you. I can't imagine what it must have been like for him. 9/10 from me.
American Heist has also been on my watch list, and it was pretty poor. I can't think what it is, but it reminds me of another film. I'd only score it a 4/10.
Final film I've seen recently is Earth to Echo. What a pile
I was kind of hoping for an updated Batteries Not Included, but it's not what I got. Instead I got some annoying kids and a mechanical owl. 4/10 again.I think I'm going to have to try to find some better films!!
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my opinion of Lucy has provoked some strong reactions
An 8.5 was a little generous maybe.
However i still reckon the storyline of what could happen if we use more than the 10% of our brain was a fun one.
It will not win any awards, but it entertained me and that is what it is all about.
The issue isn't really that premise, despite the idea being basically old and stupid and disproved ages ago, when you could simply ignore that crap, say "hey this drug makes you smarter" and then having the guy just be a basic expert in brain mechanics who was theorising what would happen if humans got smarter. They didn't need the stupid and flawed science because it was effectively meaningless to the film anyway.
The issue is it used a premise to give someone super powers... at which point she....
lifted what 5-10 guys in the air in the hospital.... then in the big thrilling ending as she approached the peak of her powers she...... SAT IN A CHAIR, zomg, then she turned into a usb stick... wow.
I didn't mention the thrilling car scene where she went really really.... fast. Nor the actual action to finish of a film where the lead character has super powers. Two groups of idiots stood 10 metres away from each other and opposite ends of a corridor and basically did nothing interesting. Without going back and watching it again I believe they were expecting said attack and a bunch of cops were standing by a row of cars outside and the bad dudes all drove up behind them then went in the building uncontested, it seems ridiculous and maybe I'm not remembering that right but I think that is what happened.
ULtimately this was a film by where someone got super powers and the peak of her using super powers was turning her knowledge into a usb stick.
I didn't mention the thrilling car scene where she went really really.... fast. Nor the actual action to finish of a film where the lead character has super powers. Two groups of idiots stood 10 metres away from each other and opposite ends of a corridor and basically did nothing interesting. Without going back and watching it again I believe they were expecting said attack and a bunch of cops were standing by a row of cars outside and the bad dudes all drove up behind them then went in the building uncontested, it seems ridiculous and maybe I'm not remembering that right but I think that is what happened.
ULtimately this was a film by where someone got super powers and the peak of her using super powers was turning her knowledge into a usb stick.
It's like having Man of Steel.... having the bus scene to show his powers growing then ending with well, not much at all, maybe Superman sat on a chair while Lois throws some kryptonite bullets at Zod and there was no real superpowered action. Take any super powers based film and the method someone gets super powers is usually pretty unimportant, it's a tool to get you to have a super powered dude on screen doing cool crap. They made the premise though unimportant, particularly stupid, then they entirely forgot the "do cool crap with super powers" part of the film, the premise is only there to give you a film about someone with super powers... not using them to do much of anything actually exciting in the film is pretty much unforgivable.
I thought as premises go in such films it was stupid and ridiculously easy to make it not stupid making it frustrating. The action was abysmal, and the film ramped down in terms of powers rather than up with a big final super powered action finish. Horrible writing, horrible characters, poor acting(though brilliant acting of a terrible script will look like bad acting, she maybe played a terrible role perfectly), poor action, utter waste of time.
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The Grand Budapest Hotel - loved it, so well acted and shot, 9/10!
Agree...it's was just ok....
After a sexual crime they would never have sent the victim home covered in blood from hospital ...she would be cleaned and examined externally and internally for evidence forceful violence....
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The Lunchbox
Liked it a lot, would definitely recommend if you don't mind subs
Liked it a lot, would definitely recommend if you don't mind subs
Pitch Black - 6/10
reasonable Sci Fi flick but nothing to write home about. Nothing in the film really gets explained which is odd. You kind of just get thrown into a spaceship crash scenario with random passenegers and away you go.
Ex-Machina - 7.5/10
Posted this in the specific thread for this but thought I'd mention it in here also. Interesting film, with a very good and convincing performance from the female AI. I didnt like the Nathan character that much, thought he was far too 'strange/ aggressive/ eccentric.'
reasonable Sci Fi flick but nothing to write home about. Nothing in the film really gets explained which is odd. You kind of just get thrown into a spaceship crash scenario with random passenegers and away you go.
Ex-Machina - 7.5/10
Posted this in the specific thread for this but thought I'd mention it in here also. Interesting film, with a very good and convincing performance from the female AI. I didnt like the Nathan character that much, thought he was far too 'strange/ aggressive/ eccentric.'
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Evil Dead (2013).
Headphones on, wife and kids in bed, lights out, a few beers and really enjoyed it.
Headphones on, wife and kids in bed, lights out, a few beers and really enjoyed it.
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What did you feel needed to be explained?
I really like Pitch Black. I'd say it's more like an 8/10.