What is so special about a Honda Integra Type R - DC5?

[TW]Fox · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:26

It's very different in ethos to an Impreza so not really a competitor.

Muffin` · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:28

[TW]Fox;22372396 said:
Isn't it a saloon rather than a hatch?

What's mine?

[TW]Fox · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:33

Muffin` said:
What's mine?

A hatch parked beside a can of worms

But the FD2 really is a textbook example of a saloon. 4 doors, a boot and a fixed rear screen.

atpbx · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:33

NathWraith said:
It is a 4 door saloon with 220BHP surely that competes with a Subaru WRX which has 225BHP?

OK power outputs and size/doors don't always make cars direct competitors but they seem too similar not to compare IMO.

Not really, anything with a turbo on it obliterates these kind of cars out of low to mid speed corners.

They are cars for completely different driving styles.

NathWraith · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:43

[TW]Fox;22372583 said:
It's very different in ethos to an Impreza so not really a competitor.

Agreed but you can see where I might be drawing my comparisons from.

atpbx said:
Not really, anything with a turbo on it obliterates these kind of cars out of low to mid speed corners.

They are cars for completely different driving styles.

As above.

atpbx · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:46

NathWraith said:
Agreed but you can see where I might be drawing my comparisons from.

As above.

Yes, in numbers of doors and specific output.

No in every other aspect.

The DC5 is a Clio 200, toyota corolla t-sport, type competitor.

NathWraith · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:47

atpbx said:
Yes, in numbers of doors and specific output.

No in every other aspect.

The DC5 is a Clio 200, toyota corolla t-sport, type competitor.

Yeah that was the point I was making

I know a high revving N/A is a different breed of car to a turbo'ed car.

-Ad- · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:52

atpbx said:
The DC5 is a Megane 265 type competitor.

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Muffin` · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:57

[TW]Fox;22372653 said:
A hatch parked beside a can of worms

But the FD2 really is a textbook example of a saloon. 4 doors, a boot and a fixed rear screen.

I'm not saying it's not a saloon, but it's still a hot hatch. The term is synonymous with what the FD2 is, so it's a hot hatch, like my Coupe is a hot hatch.

merlin · 18 Jul 2012 at 16:59

I'd expect a standard DC5 to dispatch a 225 WRX without too much trouble under any circumstances except a) launch from standing start and b) wet conditions.

NathWraith · 18 Jul 2012 at 17:03

Muffin` said:
I'm not saying it's not a saloon, but it's still a hot hatch. The term is synonymous with what the FD2 is, so it's a hot hatch, like my Coupe is a hot hatch.

It's a hot hatch because of it's nature not because of it's form.

am rite?

mattyprice4004 · 18 Jul 2012 at 17:10

-Ad- said:
We're not talking about reliability and how the things are driven, just how amazing it is to drive with

If we're going there, a decent ZS180 saloon is a good competitor to a Teg IMO.

Based on the Civic chassis, better suspension, 2.5L N/A V6 under the hood. Total hoot to drive, too!

realscot · 18 Jul 2012 at 17:57

mattyprice4004 said:
If we're going there, a decent ZS180 saloon is a good competitor to a Teg IMO.

Based on the Civic chassis, better suspension, 2.5L N/A V6 under the hood. Total hoot to drive, too!

Nah my old MB6 was a match to the ZS180, which means the DC5 would just wee all over it.

Relentless81 · 18 Jul 2012 at 18:57

If you're into high revving NA four cylinder engines then the DC5 is second to the FD2 as one of the finest

I'd love one but I'm not willing to pay the premium associated with them

atpbx · 18 Jul 2012 at 19:00

-Ad- said:
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Bwaaaahahahahaha

Not in any world, but highly amusing none the less.

Modmedia · 18 Jul 2012 at 19:17

Drive one.

And you will see. I've had two. Awesome cars.

On a GTR now and it's fun but I miss V-Tec sometimes.

Jonnycoupe · 18 Jul 2012 at 19:18

Relentless81 said:
If you're into high revving NA four cylinder engines then the DC5 is second to the FD2 as one of the finest

I'd love one but I'm not willing to pay the premium associated with them

To be fair it is pretty much the SAME engine.

Premium is great. Means if you buy one you shouldn't lose a huge amount of cash - just need the capital though. I have a DC5 itch still :mad:

-Ad- · 18 Jul 2012 at 19:27

atpbx said:
Bwaaaahahahahaha

Not in any world, but highly amusing none the less.

Well maybe the Megane isn't, but it would be a good comparison to see tested out even if the Megane is FI.

Jonnycoupe said:
I have a DC5 itch still

Scratch that itch then!

(This is your evil consciene)

sovietspybob · 18 Jul 2012 at 22:15

Good time to buy a DC5 now as the prices are fairly low, i managed to pass mine on having only lost about 1500quid in 18 months and 25k miles, if i'd have waited another 12 months i'd have easily lost another 2k on it.

Johnnytoxic · 18 Jul 2012 at 23:27

The K20 is still one of the best engines out there. How much ahead of it's time was it in 2001. Everyone wants to stick them into kit/track/project cars, so makes it a pain in the rear to get a replacement engine for our legit cars.

The torque argument is silly, just shift down a gear