What is this tv?

sid said:
picture quality is worse than CRT


Well it would do, CRT is way better than anything else around at the moment.

I think most people with an unlimited budget/space would opt for a CRT projector.
 
daz said:
No, it's because LCD technology is inferior.

Otherwise they'd use LCD projectors instead of DLP.
I think you misunderstand my arguement, by LCD Tv I don't mean projection, just your normal.
 
Vegeta said:
I think you misunderstand my arguement, by LCD Tv I don't mean projection, just your normal.

Ignoring the arguments about projection TVs, it seems you posted because you like the look of cabinet of the above TV?
Most of the Samsung LCD range are also of a similar design :)
 
fini said:
I'm just basing my opinion on when we had this same tv in the window of the shop I have a Saturday job at. The darker it got the better the screen looked. The lighter and brighter it got, comparing it to an LCD sat right next to it, the worse the screen looked; all washed out etc. Eventually, after so many customers had commented on the picture difference between that and the LCD next to it (which I think was an Sony IIRC), the Samsung was moved to a dark spot at the back of the store...

fini

Living with this TV day to day, that's not my experience atall. Mine is situated with a window on a wall to the left of it, during the day the room gets sunshine streaming into it, and it always remains bright and colourfull, better than my old CRT infact.

As for the argument that blacks aren't good, well that's completely wrong too. This Samsung gives awesome performance with blacks, they are rich and deep, with an almost silk-like look. The contrast levels are supurb, superior to many Plasmas and LCDs.

Like I said, a DLP is nothing like the old style rear projectors.

Don't just take my word for it, take a look at this review.
 
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DreXeL said:
Living with this TV day to day, that's not my experience atall. Mine is situated with a window on a wall to the left of it, during the day the room gets sunshine streaming into it, and it always remains bright and colourfull, better than my old CRT infact.

As for the argument that blacks aren't good, well that's completely wrong too. This Samsung gives awesome performance with blacks, they are rich and deep, with an almost silk-like look. The contrast levels are supurb, superior to many Plasmas and LCDs.

Like I said, a DLP is nothing like the old style rear projectors.

Don't just take my word for it, take a look at this review.
Pics pls Drexel
 
I was going to buy this Samsung TV a year ago but decided to go for the DLP front PJ. The picture quality on the Sammy 50" DLP is absolutely amazing.. When I first saw it in a major chain. I was gobsmacked. I took my crappy DVD player in (RGB scart) and a small selection of DVDS to demo it. I can say I was very very impressed.

As for it having a crappy PQ. yes it would if its not fed a really good feed.The feeds people see in big stores are pathetic. Once you get it home and plug in SKY or even normal Terrestrial TV you will see a massive difference.

Using the 360 on it the PQ will be amazing, tbh it will be better than LCD and plasma. Bear in mind this TV is about 3 years old now Yes they have upgraded this model afew times with newer chips and the like.. but still is one of the best HD TVs around.

The only downside to the DLP is the viewing angle. You do have to be really face on to have good viewing. That aside. Its awsome..

I do have DLP front PJ and it blows everything away imo. Even in the day time with ambient light seeping into the room I still get a fantastic picture.. same can be said about the Sammy 50".

I suppose my DLP PJ is crap too Vegeta.. You really need to see one in someones house before jumping to the conclusion all DLP projectors, front or rear are crap.. Trust me.. If you lived near me I would invite you round to have a look.

My DLP is twice as big as that sammy and the PQ is amazing. Same technology just front and not rear projection
 
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willd58 said:
Pics pls Drexel

Here's some quick pics, quality isn't the best as this is coming from an el-cheapo camera :o

This first one shows what I was talking about with the window. If sunlight was a problem I wouldn't have it there ;)

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Unfortunately these pics just don't do it any kind of justice.

WRT to viewing angle, they have a reputation for bad veiwing angles, but I find it pretty good. It's not so great in the vertical, it pretty much dissapears if you stand near it and look downwards, but you would never need to do that anyway.

In the horizontal it stays pretty much spot on unless you get to any really silly angles. I can comfortably watch it from that sofa you can just see in the top picture (although I normally watch it from another sofa I have against the wall opposite the screen).
 
Good pics there mate... Only other MAJOR problem I found with that TV is center speaker placement.. I know it works but having the speaker where it is does look kind of outta place .. I know it will be best place you can put it.. I feel for you.
 
I would say a simple shelf above the screen would fix the problem, here's mine:-

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I will try and take some pics of it running later ;)

At the time I bought mine this model was abou £400 cheaper than DreXeL's so I went for this one instead, apparently they use the same internals etc. they are just different external designs.

The model DreXeL has has a lot of the gubbins in the stand itself allowing the screen to be much slimmer.

HEADRAT
 
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The thing about center speakers is they realisticly need to be place below the viewing screen. With the Sammy 50" with pedestal its a hard thing to do.. Unless you invest in a really high quality small speaker such as the Mission Cubes. Which I might add are very highly recomended on AV forums.
 
Yeah centre speaker placement is a bit akward, funny you should mention a small shelf Headrat, I was actually considering doing that.
 
I'll probably get flamed for this, but even in this pictures granted they weren't of the highest quality the colours look well faded compared to a decent LCD TV.
 
and whats the cheapest 50" LCD tv you have seen ?

infact, having a quick look i cant find a 50" LCD.. all i can see is rear projection lcd (which is not a proper LCD)

it seems above 40" they turn from LCD to plasma.

so its not really fair to try to compare this tv to a product that doesnt exist.
 
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Vegeta said:
I'll probably get flamed for this, but even in this pictures granted they weren't of the highest quality the colours look well faded compared to a decent LCD TV.

Not flamed but I do think DreXeL pointed out that the pictures don't do the screen justice, trying to judge the PQ and colour quality from a picture taken off a screen leaves me a little :confused: ;)

HEADRAT
 
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Vegeta said:
I'll probably get flamed for this, but even in this pictures granted they weren't of the highest quality the colours look well faded compared to a decent LCD TV.

LOL. Just LOL. The pics were taken with a 30 quid digital camera FFS, of course you aren't going to get any idea of how it looks IRL :rolleyes:
 
Christ calm down, I don't understand what size have todo with this argument, I'm just on about the picture quality and it's clearly lower to me, is there any 40" DLP arounds? I can gurantee they won't look as vibrant as a LCD, as for value for money yes they are better, but once again i'm only taking about PQ.
If you guy's are happy with your DLP's good for you, i'd just prefer a LCD thats all.

If people we're only after value for money yes they'd buy that but theres a reason why we pay the extra for a nicer picture, rather have a sony bravia than a no name lcd for example.
 
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When I bought my 50" DLP the LCD you mention weren't around, we all know how quickly these thing move on.

Vegeta said:
I can gurantee they won't look as vibrant as a LCD,

If you put a good DLP next to a LCD you honestly wouldn't see much diffence in PQ and the DLP would be a damn site cheaper, the main thing that people don't like about DLP's is you can't really hang them on the wall (well you can with some).

HEADRAT
 
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I'm not saying your wrong for buying a DLP, good on you it's a lot better than the TV I currently have, i'm just saying I would prefer to have a LCD even if it's a little smaller and a lot more expensive that's all, I just believe the picture on the LCD will be better, but the picture on these are obviously very good readin the reviews.

Ones i've seen in shops LCD's have been better, granted everything had been connected badly, but just the colour seems to be brighter.

EDIT: Anyone got any pics of the tv from the top? Just interested how thick it is, why don't they make LCD's with the front bezels like that :/
 
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