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What the heck is up with AMD pricing?

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Someone needs to create an AI Thatcher to deal with all the miners.

Amusingly I bought it off a miner. Ebay job as Amazon fell through. Yummy mummy in her early forties had three rigs visible from her front door where we did the exchange. She said she was making £50/day and didn't want to do more because she was "worried about the electricity". She must've had 3 or 4 of the Nitro+ and Pulse Sapphire RX 580s hooked up to each one for 'etho mining'. Its a funny old world.
 
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Amusingly I bought it off a miner. Ebay job as Amazon fell through. Yummy mummy in her early forties had three rigs visible from her front door where we did the exchange. She said she was making £50/day and didn't want to do more because she was "worried about the electricity". She must've had 3 or 4 of the Nitro+ and Pulse Sapphire RX 580s hooked up to each one for 'etho mining'. Its a funny old world.

The idea of being slowly braised inside your own home with multiple KW of heating on 24/7 into summer would worry me more.

A mining farm could be a really good cover for the power and heat signature of a cannabis farm as long as you sorted the air filtration out :p
 
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Hi there


This is a sell rebate, so were selling below cost and the rebates will end on June 30th, of course like last time once it ends, well it ends and the last time AMD offered this was back in November, so you get the idea how long and far apart these promotions can be, so don't miss out this time, prices are not quite as good as last time as that is simply impossible unless we loose a lot of money simply due to the fact cost of product has gone up, mainly due to memory price increases:


Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 WindForce OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £548.99 inc VAT



GV-RXVEGA64GAMING OC-8GD, Core Clock: 1276MHz, Boost Clock: 1560MHz, Memory: 8192MB 945MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 4096, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.



Only £548.99 inc VAT.

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PowerColor Radeon RX VEGA 64 Red Devil 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £569.99 inc VAT



AXRX VEGA 64 8GBHBM2-2D2H/OC, Core Clock: 1417MHz, Boost Clock: 1607MHz, Memory: 8192MB 945MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 4096, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.



Only £569.99 inc VAT.

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Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA Nitro+ 64 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £578.99 inc VAT



11275-03-40G, Core Clock: 1373MHz, Boost Clock: 1580MHz, Memory: 8192MB 945MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 4096, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.



Only £578.99 inc VAT.

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Asus Radeon RX VEGA 64 ROG Strix OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £629.99 inc VAT



ROG-STRIX-RXVEGA64-O8G-GAMING, Core Clock: 1405MHz, Boost Clock: 1590MHz, Memory: 8192MB 945MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 4096, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 3 Year Warranty.



Only £629.99 inc VAT.

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PowerColor Radeon RX VEGA 56 Red Dragon 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £449.99 inc VAT



AXRX VEGA 56 8GBHBM2-2D2HD/OC, Core Clock: 1177MHz, Boost Clock: 1478MHz, Memory: 8192MB 800MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 3584, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.



Only £449.99 inc VAT.

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Sapphire Radeon RX VEGA 56 Pulse 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card (11276-02-40G) @ £464.99 inc VAT



11276-02-40G, Core Clock: 1208MHz, Boost Clock: 1512MHz, Memory: 8192MB 800MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 3584, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.




Only £464.99 inc VAT.

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PowerColor Radeon RX VEGA 56 Red Devil 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £488.99 inc VAT



AXRX VEGA 56 8GBHBM2-2D2H/OC, Core Clock: 1308MHz, Boost Clock: 1528MHz, Memory: 8192MB 800MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 3584, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.



Only £488.99 inc VAT.

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Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 56 Gaming OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £499.99 inc VAT



Core Clock: 1170MHz, Boost Clock: 1501MHz, Memory: 8192MB 800MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 3584, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.



Only £499.99 inc VAT.

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It may not be as good as last time but these sell rebates happen rarely from AMD, last one was six months ago, so this time do not miss out if you were considering a VEGA this is as cheap as they will get as I suspect production has now been reduced or ceased whilst AMD work on 2019's project for VGA. :)
 
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Hi there





Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 64 WindForce OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £548.99 inc VAT
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Giga...HBM2-PCI-Express-Graphics-Card-GX-19N-GI.html
GV-RXVEGA64GAMING OC-8GD, Core Clock: 1276MHz, Boost Clock: 1560MHz, Memory: 8192MB 945MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 4096, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.



Only £548.99 inc VAT.

ORDER NOW





Gigabyte Radeon RX VEGA 56 Gaming OC 8GB HBM2 PCI-Express Graphics Card @ £499.99 inc VAT



Core Clock: 1170MHz, Boost Clock: 1501MHz, Memory: 8192MB 800MHz HBM2, Stream Processors: 3584, DirectX 12 Support, Vulkan Support, GCN, 2 Year Warranty.


Only £499.99 inc VAT.

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Hi Gibbo, can you please double check the warranty situation. According to Gigiabyte's website standard warranty is 3 years on video cards.

https://www.gigabyte.com/uk/Support/Warranty/Graphics-Card

Warranty
"Graphics cards: GIGABYTE provides 3 years warranty from the production date. The warranty applies exclusively to distributors and dealers. End users have to claim the RMA service through dealers where the product was purchased. For the XTREME GAMING series graphic cards with special extended warranty terms, please refer to the product page or XTREME GAMING site."

Warranty Terms
1st year please contact place of purchase. Years 2-3 contact [email protected] directly. Repair or replace for same or better performance.
 
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@Freddie1980 I wouldn't touch the Gigabyte even with the extra year of warranty, especially not when the Red Devil is so close in price, Gigabyte have been treating AMD cards like 2nd class citizens for a while now & they cut corners on development, they all but admitted it with these Vega cards. Dig out some reviews on them & then do yourself a favour & buy the Red Devil or Nitro Plus.
 
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@nashathedog, Thanks for the tip, now you mention it I recall reading a thread a couple of weeks ago were someone pointed out the same things you have about their Gigabyte card they had just purchased. Also there was video from TechDeals saying their cards run really hot.
 
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Problem buying ex-mining cards though is they are often on their last legs after months of running at 100%

It was brand new and sealed - she bought one more than she needed apparently. I wouldn't buy a used card but I don't really see a problem with ex-mining cards, either. It's like saying you wouldn't cross a bridge after rush hour. It's built to tolerances and 100% is just utilising its full capacity. Now, if its been oc'd or reprogrammed to increase hash performance, that's something else entirely.
 
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The idea of being slowly braised inside your own home with multiple KW of heating on 24/7 into summer would worry me more.

A mining farm could be a really good cover for the power and heat signature of a cannabis farm as long as you sorted the air filtration out :p

Agreed. Historically I've had a.. 6600gt, 8800gts, 1950 pro and 7850.. Until now I hadn't experienced the room warming of a card kicking out 75°c exhaust. Christ knows how bad it'd be for anything other than running a single card to get 60fps in PUBG
 
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@nashathedog, Thanks for the tip, now you mention it I recall reading a thread a couple of weeks ago were someone pointed out the same things you have about their Gigabyte card they had just purchased. Also there was video from TechDeals saying their cards run really hot.

You're welcome, It's a shame really as an extra year is quite rare on the AMD side of things.

You can tell Gibbos desperate to get shot of these, as hes posted them in every AMD thread, and given them their own one :p

They still need to go lower in my opinion. With mining sales slowing & Vega trailing to two year old Pascal tech it's no surprise prices need to drop it's just a shame it didn't happen sooner.
 
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I remember when I got an X800XT PE, it was the most powerful GPU you could get at the time, blew the 6800Ultra out of the water, it was the king, and it only cost £215, I even bought it from OcUK, I'd still regards 250-300 as a high end card price range, yet a GTX1060 is only slightly cheaper and that's not top end. So pricing is really wrong these days.
 

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I remember when I got an X800XT PE, it was the most powerful GPU you could get at the time, blew the 6800Ultra out of the water, it was the king, and it only cost £215, I even bought it from OcUK, I'd still regards 250-300 as a high end card price range, yet a GTX1060 is only slightly cheaper and that's not top end. So pricing is really wrong these days.

Demand, supply.
Pound much weaker vs dollar from back then.
Development costs higher now.
They figured out people are willing to pay higher prices.
 
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Amusingly I bought it off a miner. Ebay job as Amazon fell through. Yummy mummy in her early forties had three rigs visible from her front door where we did the exchange. She said she was making £50/day and didn't want to do more because she was "worried about the electricity". She must've had 3 or 4 of the Nitro+ and Pulse Sapphire RX 580s hooked up to each one for 'etho mining'. Its a funny old world.

wonder if she is still making £50 a day :p
 
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A week ago the 8gb RX 580 Nitro+ was £300, its lurid blue special edition the same price on a competitors' site. I missed both deals but nvm. Prices then skyrocketed to ~£360 and £390 respectively here and £340 and some places £400+.

Now the AORUS and standard Gigabyte cards are £300 on here and the 8gb 580 Nitro+s are £320 and £350.. whilst an RX570 8gb card is £330.

This doesn't seem to be the reserve of OcUK. All the competitors' prices are similarly discombobulated.

Is demand all over the place because NVIDIA have pumped out 1070ti and 1060 cards (I draw that conclusion given these have dropped from their inflated levels and the 1070 is stagnant)?

I appeciate for those spending what I consider to be silly money on 1080s and Vegas that a £100 price variance isn't much - but for the rest of us paupers that've been royally screwed by mining inflations (the 8gb RX580 was launched at £190!), I'm sure I'm not the only one thats holding back from spending hard earned cash in our favourite shop incase the price swings against us the day we take delivery...
Radeon are still more profitable in mining at those prices, so until asic drops for ether, prices won't go straight to MSRP, beside AMD stock shipped is usualy smaller than nvidia, so there isn't that many cards to go around.
 
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