What to look for when buying a bike?

Thanks for the reply.

I'm undecided as to whether to save a little and go for the 636 or pick up an P8F. I think once I've passed if I can find a dealer willing to let me test either it would help. A 2005/2006 is about £3-400 cheaper to insure and doesn't suffer from the mid range issues the 07/08 does, doesn't seem to be too many examples knocking about though.

Your bike looks very tidy, nice and clean just how it should be!

How much did it cost to have the wheels powder coated if you don't mind me asking?
 
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Cheers :)
Wheels werent powder coated, just sprayed! Wasnt much tho.

Get out and ride them both, i'd prob just buy a perfect shape 06 with low miles and put the extra cash into a few nice bits for it tbh!

Think the 07 Calipers were changed too.. heard rumours of them being worse..!
 
Just a bit of advice, before you think about buying it, check how much insurance will be and whether it's worth it to you.

If the insurance is going to be prohibitively expensive consider something like an SV650s to get your 1st years no claims under your belt, that helps a lot.

Just read what you're written later, at least you've checked (unlike the muppet at work who bought a 09 Fireblade before checking on insurance).
 
http://www.motorcyclesupermarket.com/used-motorcycles/2003-Kawasaki-ZX6R-NINJA-in-Ruislip-5239040

Thoughts on this example?

Other than finding a rather negative review of the service supplied by the dealer it seems to be a reputable dealer having been established 40 years.

The price seems in line with others for sale, in fact cheaper than other private sales which raises an eyebrow. It's quite close to me so I might pop down and give it a look over if it's still available.

A concern is that it might have not been run in properly and slammed around a track or have had some damage repaired.

It looks quite tidy and the 5th photo might show a few light marks on the tank.
 
http://www.motorcyclesupermarket.com/used-motorcycles/2003-Kawasaki-ZX6R-NINJA-in-Ruislip-5239040

Thoughts on this example?

Other than finding a rather negative review of the service supplied by the dealer it seems to be a reputable dealer having been established 40 years.

The price seems in line with others for sale, in fact cheaper than other private sales which raises an eyebrow. It's quite close to me so I might pop down and give it a look over if it's still available.

A concern is that it might have not been run in properly and slammed around a track or have had some damage repaired.

It looks quite tidy and the 5th photo might show a few light marks on the tank.

Go and have a look if it's close, just up the road from me also :)
 
If you've just passed your test and only ever ridden a CB500 during your lessons I'm not sure if a dealer will let you test ride a Ninja to be honest. Even if they do, I doubt you'd really get a feel for it as you'd probably be too afraid/inexperienced to ride it properly (I know that even my SV650 felt fast straight after I passed my test - I took it *very* easy on that first ride that's for sure!)
 
You'll be scared ****less of it too much to even begin to appreciate it. I'm speaking from experience as I have one and it's my first bike after I passed my DAS around four years ago. You need the confidence that a slower bike brings before jumping onto something like this. I know I sound like I'm lecturing but you have absolutely NO IDEA how fast these things are and I did the exact same thing as you and bought one as my first bike. Yes you can drive them slowly, yes they're quite tame when driven slowly, but, driving them slowly is boring and not what they're designed for at all. They're uncomfortable in no time at all! If you want to buy a bike to up your confidence and learn to ride, then buy one that's designed for it and I promise you'll appreciate a ZX6R a million times more. I know you won't listen to a word I've said and buy one anyway as they are gorgeous bikes. But I bet three years down the line you'll be telling someone else just like you the exact same words I've just said to you. :)
 
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You'll be scared ****less of it too much to even begin to appreciate it. I'm speaking from experience as I have one and it's my first bike after I passed my DAS around four years ago. You need the confidence that a slower bike brings before jumping onto something like this. I know I sound like I'm lecturing but you have absolutely NO IDEA how fast these things are and I did the exact same thing as you and bought one as my first bike. Yes you can drive them slowly, yes they're quite tame when driven slowly, but, driving them slowly is boring and not what they're designed for at all. They're uncomfortable in no time at all! If you want to buy a bike to up your confidence and learn to ride, then buy one that's designed for it and I promise you'll appreciate a ZX6R a million times more. I know you won't listen to a word I've said and buy one anyway as they are gorgeous bikes. But I bet three years down the line you'll be telling someone else just like you the exact same words I've just said to you. :)

This.

I'm probably in a minority group, but I never really opened up by CB500 in the lessons I had. On the way back after passing, the instructor had taken the radio off - "no need for that now" - and was cool about me making my way back to the rider centre. I thought I'd 'open it up' and the thing just flew.

So, within the space of 90 minutes I was at the local bike shop and they gave me the keys to an ER-6F (which I ended up buying). I took it out, no questions, and drove it to the nearest dual carriage way where I let rip in 2nd and 3rd to pull on to it. Terrifying moment, as you realise that this is the fastest you've ever accelerated in your life. At that moment I can clearly remember thinking "I can buy this bike new, or there's a 2008 R6 for the same price". Then I remember thinking that if something went wrong, I probably wasn't in full control of the bike.

I went for the ER-6F in the end and now - nearly 2 years later - am glad I did on reflection. I think I'd have stacked the R6 in those early days.

However, I am now looking for a new bike - Z750R - but all in all I'm glad I went with something a bit more sensible to let me find out what sort of rider I am and what my limits are.
 
This.

I'm probably in a minority group, but I never really opened up by CB500 in the lessons I had. On the way back after passing, the instructor had taken the radio off - "no need for that now" - and was cool about me making my way back to the rider centre. I thought I'd 'open it up' and the thing just flew.

So, within the space of 90 minutes I was at the local bike shop and they gave me the keys to an ER-6F (which I ended up buying). I took it out, no questions, and drove it to the nearest dual carriage way where I let rip in 2nd and 3rd to pull on to it. Terrifying moment, as you realise that this is the fastest you've ever accelerated in your life. At that moment I can clearly remember thinking "I can buy this bike new, or there's a 2008 R6 for the same price". Then I remember thinking that if something went wrong, I probably wasn't in full control of the bike.

I went for the ER-6F in the end and now - nearly 2 years later - am glad I did on reflection. I think I'd have stacked the R6 in those early days.

However, I am now looking for a new bike - Z750R - but all in all I'm glad I went with something a bit more sensible to let me find out what sort of rider I am and what my limits are.

This tbh.

I went with a ninja 250 while on my restricted licence and then got a gixxer 600 after.

If you own a supersports bike (which is effectively what they are). You have to be 110% confident you wont **** your pants when you pin the bike full throttle in every gear.

If you get too scared to pin it in a straight line then the bike will just eat you alive every chance it gets. Especially with kawasaki, they are really hard bikes to ride in comparison to say the gsxr or the cbr600rr
 
Well I popped along this afternoon and gave the bike a look over. I popped on to their website which showed the mileage as 21500 quite a difference to the 3495 shown in the advert, which then occurred to me some plank has put the price as the mileage. Anyway...

The tax is due to run out at the end of July, with an MOT due then too/beginning of August. There was a scratch on the screen about an inch long but nothing too major. There was a couple of marks on the left side of the swing arm which looked like chipped paint but again nothing too major. The shocks seems to be in very good condition, no leaks, no crack or leaks on the rear shock/spring either. The wheels and fairing were in good condition no noticeable defects, the wheels could do with a respray which I plan on doing anyway. Rear sprockets and chain seemed okay, a fair bit of play though it is due a service which will be done. The exhaust/manifold whilst not in perfect condition, to be expected for a 5 year old bike, didn't have any blows that I could hear and whilst tinged an orangey(sp) red/brown it was not flaking.

It started up nicely and idled well. With the same about of play either way on the bars in that the bar ends were almost touching the tank. I couldn't feel any niggles or clicks or bumps in the header bearing though I will get the front end off the ground soon to check this properly.

The rear brake disc looked almost new and the front looked worn with some grooving and the pad had about 3/4mm left, I asked about this and he said when they service it if they have less than 4k miles in them they will change them but that they looked fine to him.

Tyres had plenty of tread on them, no squaring and gripped well on the test passenger ride.

Master key & spare, full service history from the garage it was purchased from which is actually one I visited a few weeks back and is very local to me. Service at 500 miles, and then a couple of thousand later and then every 5/6k after that.

Riding pillion was interesting, kept head butting the chap taking me out as the strap is useless so I had my hands on the tank pretty much most of the time. He said he wasn't really putting it in to corners very hard as I was quite stiff and apparently trying to keep the bike upright but it was fast enough for me. He took it up to 'a rather fast speed' in a matter of seconds on a nice straight country road which put a smile on my face. Goes like the clappers which is to be expected.

I explained that the book price for a tidy example is £3200 which after checking his book admitted isn't far off. I explained the points above at which point he asked what I was looking for. I said as close to £3000 as possible which he said he couldn't do and offered £3300. I then said that it's tax & mot were due and we went for another look around where I pointed everything out.

We settled on £3200 which includes a service & MOT, 3 month warranty, valet and storing the bike for me until I pass in the next couple of weeks. £100 deposit paid and 2 photo's taken to follow shortly :)

I'm sure most will be shaking their heads. I know that I don't have 1/10th of the confidence to ride how he was which was not dangerous at all, apart from the one occasion where he opened it up, so I won't be trying to ride like that any time soon.

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