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What would OcUK do !?!?!?!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by OldCoals, Jul 8, 2020.

  1. OldCoals

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    I was just driving home where something caught my eye on the path to my left as I turned in. There was nowhere to park because of all the cars on the road but I was pretty sure it was a person.

    I did a quick loop and as I got back an elderly woman was getting up of the path wearing a purple dressing gown.

    I stopped and asked her if she was OK and she said she was, she looked a little bit disorientated however and just kept saying she was OK when I asked if she needed any help.

    she then went into a property nearby where she had gotten up from.

    I called the police 101 number as I was concerned she may be vulnerable.

    Speaking to the handler she took some details and then asked why I had phoned them and not an ambulance, I said I didn't know if she was hurt or just vulnerable either way, it wasn't normal to be lying on a path in the rain just before midnight.

    The handler then asked me if I would go and knock on the door where I thought the woman had gone to see if she was OK. I refused as I said I think it would look odd a stranger knocking on the door around midnight.

    The call handler then said they would phone the address to see if the person was OK.

    I don't know if they have sent anyone to check on her and also I feel it was wrong to ask to check too.

    What do the denizens of OcUK say?
     
  2. Tek81

    Wise Guy

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    Location: UK

    Go to the house during the day and check if she's ok? Not much else you can do.
     
  3. LeMson

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    Mind your own biz
     
  4. Surveyor

    Capodecina

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    Not sleep tonight because I left a potentially vulnerable elderly woman without checking on her like the police asked.

    If anyone queried why you were knocking on the door at midnight you could have explained and you had the police on the phone if needed.
     
  5. Screenbeat

    Gangster

    Joined: Apr 25, 2012

    Posts: 210

    Location: Oxford

    Nuke from orbit, **** in letterbox then adopt boxing stance!!!!!!!

    I'm sorry I couldn't help it!!!!
     
  6. moon man

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    Location: St Breward Cornwall

    you did enough i think ,its over to the police after that call .
     
  7. Malevolence

    Capodecina

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    Go home and forget about it. It's not your concern. Besides, if they go around and find her dead they have your details.
     
  8. Eurofighter

    Wise Guy

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    I think you did enough. The police will deal with it and if they dont it's on them.
     
  9. iamdjdz

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    I'd probably go round and knock in the morning and check, they may have forgotten the episode or anything but can't really rely on the police for their wellness checks.
     
  10. darael

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    Sounds as though she might have been drunk and had one too many.

    You did the right thing by checking up on her. I don't think I'd have called the emergency services though.
     
  11. 2004typer

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    I think it was a bit cheeky for them to say that - rather than throw criticism at you, when you were clearly trying to the right thing, surely the handler could have simply logged a request for an ambulance to go to the address (I'm assuming they have a direct link into the systems where they could do this relatively easily).

    As you stated, you did check on the welfare of the lady and as far as you could see there was no immediate medical emergency, hence your decision to phone the police.

    And asking you to go back - I know the post says the lady was elderly, but you would have had no idea what you may have been walking into, and if they were mentally ill who knows what could happen? I'd say the police are being irresponsible asking you to go back - I know they are probably under pressure due to limited resources, but in my view the onus was on them to go and knock on the door once you had reported the incident.
     
  12. Nasher

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    Id have helped them out myself or called an ambulance if I needed to. No point calling the police. They wont do anything, as you found out.
     
  13. Maundie

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    I would call round this morning to see if she was any better, I wouldn't have been able to sleep last night either without knowing.
     
  14. marti996

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    You've done more than I expect most would do, I'd be satisfied I'd done enough and you've made the emergency services aware at least. It's on them I'd say.
     
  15. Quartz

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    Thank you for caring. If you want to take further steps, I suggest you write to the Chief Constable expressing your dissatisfaction with the callousness of the person to whom you spoke.
     
  16. BDEE

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    Exactly this.

    Call handler seems like a bit of an arse!
     
  17. Pez

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    Location: Warwickshire

    Welfare check is a police task via 101 - Ambulances are emergency only.

    They have no system access, and have to call through to the ambulance EOC for assistance.
     
  18. Mushy Peas

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  19. OldCoals

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    Interesting responses.

    In my opinion, I think I did the right thing. I also think it was wrong for the police to ask me to knock on the door to see if she was OK.

    I was expecting them to ask me to wait while they send someone which I would have been happy to do.