What's the current "go to" 4k TV these days?

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Hi all,

I've been out of the TV loop for a number of years, but in a position where I want to upgrade my ageing 5 year old LG 42" beast.

My friend gets a 10% discount at the indian shop so that helps.

I've seen the 1080p OLED in the flesh which is stunning, but also seen a comparison between OLED and HDR10 / Dolby Vision VS10 playing an HDR 4k film. Very impressive.

I'll grab an xbox s console in August so I have a 4k player.

The LG 55" 770 (2016 model) supports both technologies and can be had for £1,000. The panel also pumps out 800nits which isn't far off being UltraHD Premium certified!

It's an 8bit panel and edge-led, but for money I don't think you'd get a 10bit 1000nits screen unless you double your budget.

Would there be any better models around that price? or, do I just go with OLED

Thanks!!
 
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Dolby Vision is only supported by LG as far as I know, so personally I wouldn't make that a priority. I don't think the xbox s will support Dolby Vision either, so best check that.

Edge lit and 800nit - I'd read some reviews and see how bad the light bleed is, because there will be some. Even my back lit tv bleeds. My TV is old for a 4k set though as I bought in at the start. Came out well before HDR and FALD and the rest of it.

Being LG it's probably an IPS panel, which means the blacks wont be that great. They're not on mine.

Get yourself over to AV forums.
 
Thanks

as soon as I wrote that post I stumbled across the 10bit Samsung at another £100 or so :p

decisions, but I know whichever TV I choose will be the wrong one lol
 
I've got a Panasonic 50DX750B, its 8 bit but its a VA panel. Had friends round this weekend and wasnt expecting the WOW factor comments. Quite a few get the 65DX750B and Costco seems to be the place to go if you have an account.

Although its a matter of personal preference I guess.

Dont really like Samsung as had a bad experience ordered two online and one had a cracked screen and the other had it about 10 minutes and picture just went green. No red or blue.
 
We bought a Sony Bravia 55" D9305 just over three months ago. Not cheap and while the PQ is good especially HDR, it's plagued by niggling bugs.

Most significant is a penchant to switch itself off and on again (reboot?) and on at least one occasion switch itself on from standby (scary). The apps are unreliable, when we first bought the set Netflix wouldn't work. At some point it started working then Amazon wouldn't work. After a factory reset the situation reversed itself.

The set is sluggish and slow to respond to inputs from the remote.

Part of the problem seems to be the Android operating system rather than a bog standard TV o/s.

I actually got as far as phoning JL to complain and they were going to send out an engineer to take a look. I subsequently had to cancel and when I phoned actually spoke to the engineer who stated he has around half a dozen cases open on Sony TV's, some in the workshop. Hardware wise there is nothing that can be done, essentially waiting for Sony to come up with a solution and update the firmware. So grim and bear it as at this point JL won't take the set back and little point exchanging it like for like which will probably have the same faults.

So tempting though this set might be, would recommend avoiding.
 
well my ultimate aim is obviously for an HDR premium certified OLED but I think a decent one is perhaps 2-3 years away.

I'd spent £1,500 on a good one
 
FurryLemon said:
Dolby Vision is only supported by LG as far as I know, so personally I wouldn't make that a priority. I don't think the xbox s will support Dolby Vision either, so best check that.

Edge lit and 800nit - I'd read some reviews and see how bad the light bleed is, because there will be some. Even my back lit tv bleeds. My TV is old for a 4k set though as I bought in at the start. Came out well before HDR and FALD and the rest of it.

Being LG it's probably an IPS panel, which means the blacks wont be that great. They're not on mine.

Get yourself over to AV forums.
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nothing is supported by dolby vision as dolby vision is 12bit colour at 10000Nits , 4000Nits being the minimum allowed standard for film makers and and companies that produce TV's. there's a difference between supports dolby vision and dolby vision certified.

no TV can recreate that at present so true dolby vision is a long way off
 
varkanoid said:
I've got a Panasonic 50DX750B, its 8 bit but its a VA panel. Had friends round this weekend and wasnt expecting the WOW factor comments. Quite a few get the 65DX750B and Costco seems to be the place to go if you have an account.

Although its a matter of personal preference I guess.

Dont really like Samsung as had a bad experience ordered two online and one had a cracked screen and the other had it about 10 minutes and picture just went green. No red or blue.
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I got the same TV on tuesday and i've been really impressed with it. the apps all work great netflix is streaming in HDR,4k , my pc games in 4k have been great on it and it does a great job on 3D blu rays from the xbox one.

I think the 750B is a great all rounder to be honest and mine only cost £550 so i'm not complaining lol
 
bigjimmyauk said:
nothing is supported by dolby vision as dolby vision is 12bit colour at 10000Nits , 4000Nits being the minimum allowed standard for film makers and and companies that produce TV's. there's a difference between supports dolby vision and dolby vision certified.

no TV can recreate that at present so true dolby vision is a long way off
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My E6 does Dolby vision fine
 
Vern1961 said:
We bought a Sony Bravia 55" D9305 just over three months ago.

The set is sluggish and slow to respond to inputs from the remote.
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I have a different model of Sony Bravia but mine is like treacle navigating the user interface. It even crashes when you switch it on from time to time - you can see it rebooting itself.

I would never, ever buy another Sony TV again. Most of my family have got LG and they've never had any trouble at all with them.
 
Its such a pity because the Sony hardware is meant to be absolutely spot on - but there are so many issues around the Android software thats relatively new and very buggy that makes the Sony's very hard to recommend (I believe the premium models have a different version of Android and it works a lot better, but for lots more ££)

Personally really like the panasonic's - although Im still dubious about the benefits of 4k on a 55" or less tv (Im keeping my eyes on the prices of the 58" Pana range)
 
woppy101 said:
My E6 does Dolby vision fine
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Your E6 has a peak brightness of 600Nits which isn't even enough to be quantified fully HDR capable, HDR10 is mastered to 1000 Nits, dolby certified is 10000nits but currently dolby are only requiring 4000 nits as no TV can hit that peak brightness level so they are future proofing themselfs for a while.

Of course dolby vision has a lot more behind it than just brightness But given HDR10 is the going to be the 4k standard so to speak dolby vision will have a hard time getting it's foot in the door. Dolby vision works by allowing the source and display to communicate with each other which basically tells the source what the display is capable of and the source can output it correctly to the display. Like i said at 600Nits your never really going to be seeing what dolby vision intended you'll just end up with a HDR10 effect at that brightness. Yes you might get some better colour tones as it's mastered for 4096RGB (12 bit colour)and HDR10 only 1024RGB(10bit colour) I believe the E6 is a 10 bit panel which ones again makes it more HDR friendly.

you can see what i'm getting at we are a long way off between dobly vision ready and dolby vision certified. I still IMO think it's way to early to still jump in OLED technology just because of the nature of the panels. people never learned from plasma about image retention and i've seen people on forums that play hours on end of the same game and get image retention. heck i've got image retention on my phone and it's not even 18 months old.

And for the less informed people YES OLED panels can and do suffer image retention. especially the older models, newer stuff from LG is apparently rated at 30,000 hours working life at half brightness/calibrated but users could expect 2/3 of that on dynamic mode.
 
FrankJH said:
Its such a pity because the Sony hardware is meant to be absolutely spot on - but there are so many issues around the Android software thats relatively new and very buggy that makes the Sony's very hard to recommend (I believe the premium models have a different version of Android and it works a lot better, but for lots more ££)

Personally really like the panasonic's - although Im still dubious about the benefits of 4k on a 55" or less tv (Im keeping my eyes on the prices of the 58" Pana range)
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i've noticed a big difference on my 50 inch 4k at about 5 feet away even at 8 feet i can still see a big difference really just depends on your viewing distance and eyesight etc etc

good chart here http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html
 
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