What's the current hotness/sweet spot memory for an intel system?

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Sorry if this has been asked elsewhere, but where is the current B/$ of memory speed for an intel system? ...

I have a friend who has a 13900k and recently wanted to upgrade from 32 > 64GB becuase Tarkov seems to want more... He's currently on 2x16 @ 5600/c36.
He bought another matching set, but can't get it running at more than 4000MHz (and has tried putting a bit more voltage through it!) - We're assuming that 4 sticks is the bulk of the issue.

I'm pretty out of the loop on Intel as I've been on Ryzen since 2017 - For AMD I'd be suggesting 6000/C30, but just wondered if it would be better on Intel to lean more in favour of MHz rather than timings (i.e. something like 6000/c30 vs 6600/c32)?

Cheers!
 
He bought another matching set
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That’s the issue.

Running 4 sticks of DDR5 is incredibly difficult and I’m not surprised that he’s facing issues.

He’d be better off with a 2 by 24gig kit of ~7200 or a 2 by 32gig kit of 6600~ (maybe faster depending on the quality of the CPU memory controller)

I’d suggest doing a BIOS update to prevent the CPU from imploding as a first step and the second step would be to sell those kits and buy a kit that Buildzoid recommends.

I’ll post some suggestions from his blog when I get a moment as his videos are difficult to digest at the best of times.
 
Here https://www.patreon.com/posts/what-ddr5-to-buy-84547490

What DDR5 to buy June 14 2023
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The best memory chips are.
Hynix 16Gb A-die: Speeds of 8000Mbps and higher are possible if your CPU/mobo are good enough. Similar timings to 16Gb M-die

Hynix 16Gb M-die: Tends to max out between 7200 and 7600Mbps similar timings to 16Gb A-die

Hynix 24Gb M-die: Even higher clocking than 16Gb A-die. Slightly looser timings

2x16GB ===============================================

Warning if you see a memory kit with a spec like: 6400 36-46-46-100 @ 1.4V it's almost certainly using cut down 24Gb Micron ICs which don't OC very well so don't buy it unless it's really cheap. Corsair seems to have a lot of these high speed loose Micron kits.

TEAMGROUP T-Create Classic 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory (CTCCD532G5600HC46DC01) - ************
//should always be Hynix 16Gb A-die. Manually tuning this is way more cost effective than buying high speed (7200+) XMP kits and hoping that they work. Great for both AMD and intel. The stock performance kinda sucks because it's just JEDEC spec.

Kingston FURY Beast 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory (RFBB5-60C40K2/32) - ************
//should be Hynix most of the time but can also be Samsung.

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K) - ************
//Great for Ryzen if you just want to turn on EXPO/XMP(AM5 boards are able to read XMP)

G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory (F5-6000J3238F16GX2-FX5) - ************
//Great for Ryzen if you just want to turn on EXPO/XMP(AM5 boards are able to read XMP)

PROXMEM KERBEROS 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL38 Memory (PGD5U64A38XX7-K0WC) - ************
// Another Hynix based option. Will need an underclock on Ryzen.

OLOy Blade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory (ND5U1660320BRKDE) - ************
// Another Hynix based option.

Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (CMK32GX5M2B6000C30) - ************
// Another Hynix based option.

Patriot Venom RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6200 CL40 Memory (PVVR532G620C40K) - ************
//should be Hynix

GeIL Polaris RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL38 Memory (GOSG532GB6400C38ADC) - ************
// Another Hynix option

TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6800 CL34 Memory (FF4D532G6800HC34BDC01) - ************
//Highest XMP speed I'd expect to work on all 13th gen chips. A lot of 12th gen won't run it.

I don't recommend 7200 or higher rated kits because the stability is too RNG.

2x24GB ==============================================

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-6000 CL40 Memory (F5-6000J4048F24GX2-RS5K) - ************
// Can be 24Gb Micron so don't expect it to overclock much but at least it's not expensive

G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB 48 GB (2 x 24 GB) DDR5-7200 CL36 Memory (F5-7200J3646F24GX2-TZ5RK) - ************
// Has to be Hynix 24Gb M-die. Great for hitting very high mem clocks on intel

2x32GB ===============================================

TEAMGROUP T-Create Classic 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-5600 CL46 Memory (CTCCD564G5600HC46DC01) - ************
// Should always be Hynix. So a cost effective option if you overclock it.

TEAMGROUP T-Create Classic 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL48 Memory (CTCCD564G6000HC48DC01) - ************
// Should always be Hynix. So a cost effective option if you overclock it.

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory (F5-6000J3040G32GX2-RS5K) - ************
// Hynix with a strong profile for both Ryzen and intel

Corsair Vengeance 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6600 CL32 Memory (CMK64GX5M2B6600C32) - ************
// strong XMP for intel 13th gen that shouldn't cause stability problems

2x48GB ===============================================

G.Skill Ripjaws S5 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-5600 CL40 Memory (F5-5600J4040D48GX2-RS5K) - ************
//Should be Hynix 24Gb M-die. Might also be Micron.

G.Skill Trident Z RGB 96 GB (2 x 48 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory (F5-6400J3239F48GX2-TZ5RK) - ************
// has to be Hynix 24Gb M-die. Should be a strong overclocker. Might also work at 6000 on Ryzen.

I have 0 experience with quad rank DDR5 setups(4x32 and 4x48GB) and don't recommend them since they put way too much load on the memory controller
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I bought this kit last week and its very good. It is Hynix A-die, not tried to overclock as dont see any point. I paid £115

Lexar ARES RGB DDR5 RAM 32GB Kit (16GB x 2) 6400 MHz, DRAM 288-Pin UDIMM Desktop Memory, Gaming Computer Memory for XMP 3.0, AMD EXPO, CL32-38-38-76, 1.4V (LD5EU016G-R6400GDLA)​

 
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Thanks all!

Yeah I've already told him to update the BIOS, which I think he has done already. As soon as he mentioned 4 sticks I figured that would be the problem - I'll put him on to some of those kits mentioned in Jolly's post. The 6600c32 Vengeance will probably fit the bill nicely :)
 
For a recent Intel system (12th or 13th generation), here are the key points for RAM :
DDR5 is recommended for better performance, with frequencies like 6000 MHz or more, and tight timings.
If you have a motherboard compatible only with DDR4, kits at 3600-4000 MHz with CL16 timings are still performing.
In terms of capacity, 16 GB is enough for the game, while 32 GB or more is recommended for intensive tasks.Popular brands include G.Skill, Corsair, Kingston, and Crucial.
 
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