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What's the manufacturing process of the nVidia 8900?

Misiowiec

Misiowiec

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Anyone know if the nVidia 8900 series (if that is indeed what they will be called) will feauture anything less than the current 90nm manufacturing process? I'll be buying a high-end card after the summer to support high resolution gaming (1920x1200) but the current generation runs a little hot for my liking.

I know a lower manufacturing process does not necessarely equal a cooler card (i.e. the 2900 XT has 80nm but runs hotter), but if nVidia dropped to 65nm with the same number of transistors it should make a difference.

Also, when is the 8800 replacement out and will it be physically smaller?
 
Misiowiec said:
Anyone know if the nVidia 8900 series (if that is indeed what they will be called) will feauture anything less than the current 90nm manufacturing process? I'll be buying a high-end card after the summer to support high resolution gaming (1920x1200) but the current generation runs a little hot for my liking.

I know a lower manufacturing process does not necessarely equal a cooler card (i.e. the 2900 XT has 80nm but runs hotter), but if nVidia dropped to 65nm with the same number of transistors it should make a difference.

Also, when is the 8800 replacement out and will it be physically smaller?
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to be faair the 8800 ultra is only a month or so old and nvidia don't even have proper "working" drivers out for it yet.

the next rumoured development will be a 8800 dual gpu card, but again only rummours atm.
 
nvidia has already circulated a rumour there will be no 8900

instead it will skip straight to G90 due to ATI taking so long to get their rival to the 8800 GTX off the ground. the 2900 XTX has been delayed to Q3 of this year (and thats about the 5th time its been delayed or something silly)

and to boot the 2900 XT doesnt comprehensively beat the 8800 GTS, merely keep par with it in some games, not quite in others. Why do they need to do a 8900 ?? usually its to keep with ATI and keep themselves competitive

but they've got the market sewn up atm, so have no need to bring out a minor revision.
 
A 8800GTX it is I guess - it's just so damn big! Anyone know if it's easy to mount after market coolers on these; I've always done that using Zalmans and been very happy. Using a 7900GT with a VF900 cooler now which is virtually silent (as in really silent, not the manufacturers version of it).
 
it always baffles me when people say "it runs a bit hot for my liking" or similar.. if it breaks itself with heat you can send it back because its not functioning.

Everything I hear about the 8800 series is they are very quiet too so noise shouldn't be an issue regardless of the heat.

So what's the problem?
 
hope fully the 9000 series will be a DX10 card (unlike the 8800 which from what i hear are not fully DX10 or somthing). and will be relesed in the next 4 months (getting a evega 8800 GTS in a month after exams :) )
 
I plan on upgrading from my 7900gt' to a series 9 card but what will I do with my 7900gt' when I do lol?

I mean they won't be worth much when that time comes. I suppose I could save them for when I upgrade to a new CPU/mobo/memory.
 
matt100 said:
it always baffles me when people say "it runs a bit hot for my liking" or similar.. if it breaks itself with heat you can send it back because its not functioning.

Everything I hear about the 8800 series is they are very quiet too so noise shouldn't be an issue regardless of the heat.

So what's the problem?
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The "problem" is that the power usage of a 8800GTX is considerably higher than that of e.g. a 7900GTX, meaning more heat and often louder cooling. Look it up if you have any doubts.

And when will people understand that "quiet" is a matter of definition? By my standards quiet is the point where I can barely hear the computer, under load or not (and no, I'm not deaf). I've put aftermarket coolers on both CPU and GPU, and have undervolted their fans like in the rest of my case. It sometimes seems like it's only the people over at SPCR that appreciate silence...
 
[PTG]shogun said:
so was i ;)
i think what the guy ment was that the 8800 are 1st gen DX10 and wont be very efficient with it, and that the 2nd gen would be much better
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2900XT is first generation DirectX 10 too though. :p
 
Ulfhedjinn said:
2900XT is first generation DirectX 10 too though. :p
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I know but i prefer nvidea and the 2900s are too expensive/performance for me
plus i plan toi use evgas step up program to step up to the 9900 series (if its out in time) other wise i may jump to a 640GTS or the GTX_
 
Cartho said:
Look at 8800 GTX performance in the DX 10 Lost Planet demo - shocking (like 17FPS average)
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but it is a demo though. demos are renowned for performing worse than the actual game.
i doubt its been optimised properly, and i doubt current nVidia drivers can really make use of DX10 when at this current point in time... there is no gaming content to base performance on - just tech demos.

edit: i'd also like to point out that even the DX9 version of the game is running slow for people.

when its released, newer drivers, an optimised game engine.... things will be different.












hopefully
 
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