not sure if you meant it in this way but i would say that is high praise indeed. The lancia delta is an absolute classic imo (that could be why i like the ionic 5 so much actually as i agree now you point it out, there is a bit of that in there)
(not sure many would say the same for diesel however)
Anybody see the TV show last night called Petrol V Electric - Which Is Better?
Even me being an ICE owner thought 3 of the tests were stupid.
1) Father (ICE) v daughter (EV) have got to drive 100 miles to Colwyn bay but both cars filled to 25% so both needed to stop to fill up and of course the Father won by about 30 minutes.
This was totally unfair because both would 100% fill and drive there and back but with the ICE being way cheaper per mile.
2) A petrolhead trying ICE V EV on a track doing different things but the ICE won because of the noise
He admitted that both handled exceptionally, the EV could be marginally better but he preferred noise, that's not a way to win a point.
3) Second hand market.
Similar ICE was £2,500 cheaper than the EV so that was the winner.
Surely if you've got a brain in your head you would also work out the major advantages of the EV eg fuel cost, driving in the City, noise etc.
So basically the score was 3 V 3 but in my petrolhead opinion it was 6 v 0 to the EV.
yes as a compliment, but I thought opel ev front better captured that design on a normal sized saloon .. and Renault 5 is doing even better.
The heavy EVs damaging roads is just a big load of BS. Cars have been heavy for years, not to mention the trucks and lorries using the roads every day that are so so much heavier, but apparently they don't matter.imo the bias in the media is obvious.
There are some glaring reasons why EVs are just not ready for some people.... we all know this. Affordable destination charging simply has to get (a lot) better for those without the ability to charge at home
And brand new EVs are still too expensive for those who cant get the sweet company car/lease deals....
and whilst its possible with the right car, people who tow a lot, EVs are still a bigger headache than an ICE car
These things need to be talked about and improved on.
but so many of the other issues with EVs are either just pure BS or are people desperately scrabbling round for edge case, people using the wrong car for the job or starting from a position that no sensible EV driver ever would.
the complaint about EVs weigh too much...... cars have been putting on weight for donkeys years, when it is a range rover no one bats an eyelid, but when its an EV suddenly heavy EVs are to blame for our crap roads and car parks are gonna collapse.
ICE car makers have been trying to make cars quiet for ever (outside of the obvious types where loud is part of the goal) but now EVs are dangerous because too quiet.
ICE cars have been improving 0-60 times since for ever, but now EVs are so fast they are dangerous, and damage the roads.
Also now, 0-60 time is no longer important... it is about the "soul" of the car, which apparently can only be gotten from internal combustion.
and then that is ignoring the flat out lies such as EVs having more brake dust pollution and EVs being more likely to set on fire.
I do like the smell of petrol tho, so i guess i miss that
I seem to recall seeing one the other day up for 21 so by the time you've haggled it's near enough there.
Did you spot the acceleration test faux pas?Anybody see the TV show last night called Petrol V Electric - Which Is Better?
Even me being an ICE owner thought 3 of the tests were stupid.
1) Father (ICE) v daughter (EV) have got to drive 100 miles to Colwyn bay but both cars filled to 25% so both needed to stop to fill up and of course the Father won by about 30 minutes.
This was totally unfair because both would 100% fill and drive there and back but with the ICE being way cheaper per mile.
2) A petrolhead trying ICE V EV on a track doing different things but the ICE won because of the noise
He admitted that both handled exceptionally, the EV could be marginally better but he preferred noise, that's not a way to win a point.
3) Second hand market.
Similar ICE was £2,500 cheaper than the EV so that was the winner.
Surely if you've got a brain in your head you would also work out the major advantages of the EV eg fuel cost, driving in the City, noise etc.
So basically the score was 3 V 3 but in my petrolhead opinion it was 6 v 0 to the EV.
You should see the replies to my 2016 thread about trading in an Audi TT for a Nissan Leaf.
Plot twist they've just emailed me saying the ID7 order has progressed lol. `
2) A petrolhead trying ICE V EV on a track doing different things but the ICE won because of the noise
He admitted that both handled exceptionally, the EV could be marginally better but he preferred noise, that's not a way to win a point.
I saw it mentioned but knew it would be trash so skipped it.Anybody see the TV show last night called Petrol V Electric - Which Is Better?
Even me being an ICE owner thought 3 of the tests were stupid.
1) Father (ICE) v daughter (EV) have got to drive 100 miles to Colwyn bay but both cars filled to 25% so both needed to stop to fill up and of course the Father won by about 30 minutes.
This was totally unfair because both would 100% fill and drive there and back but with the ICE being way cheaper per mile.
2) A petrolhead trying ICE V EV on a track doing different things but the ICE won because of the noise
He admitted that both handled exceptionally, the EV could be marginally better but he preferred noise, that's not a way to win a point.
3) Second hand market.
Similar ICE was £2,500 cheaper than the EV so that was the winner.
Surely if you've got a brain in your head you would also work out the major advantages of the EV eg fuel cost, driving in the City, noise etc.
So basically the score was 3 V 3 but in my petrolhead opinion it was 6 v 0 to the EV.
