Where does the iMac go next?

[rickh]

It is a fact that the text in OS X is indeed sharper than that on windows.

It is?

It's closer to that of printed text, but it isn't sharper - in fact it's a little blurrier.

The glass and the high quality screens in the imacs make for good text clarity, but little of that is due to the OS.

You can adjust windows cleartype to make the text 'bolder' like os x does if you really want thicker text.

 

[Blackhawk47]

It is?

It's closer to that of printed text, but it isn't sharper - in fact it's a little blurrier.

The glass and the high quality screens in the imacs make for good text clarity, but little of that is due to the OS.

You can adjust windows cleartype to make the text 'bolder' like os x does if you really want thicker text.

I don't what he is always complaining about like where is this iMac going to go, whats the next upgrade...he only got his cheap for like £200 - begs the question why he can't just have his cake and eat it and get over it.

 

[Faustus]

You fail to realize what pixels are...

Text on a 21.5" screen with the res/blah blah blah stated in my previous post essentially shows the same size text in terms of sharpness/font as any pretty standard 24" with 1920x1200.

It is a fact that the text in OS X is indeed sharper than that on windows.

I really do think you have lost it big time in this thread. Given both screens have the same res then a web page squeezed onto a 15" monitor is going to look smaller than when viewed on a 24" screen. I don't give a fig which OS has the best text, the thread is about what comes next with the iMac and I said I would like to see a larger screen. What is it about that statement you are having difficulty understanding?

 

[Blackhawk47]

I really do think you have lost it big time in this thread. Given both screens have the same res then a web page squeezed onto a 15" monitor is going to look smaller than when viewed on a 24" screen. I don't give a fig which OS has the best text, the thread is about what comes next with the iMac and I said I would like to see a larger screen. What is it about that statement you are having difficulty understanding?

You just compared a 15" with about 800x600 display to that of a 24" with over double screen real estate with 1920x1200. You don't understand, get an smart phone in you hand and blue tac to your bloody iMac screen with the over clockers forum loaded on each web browser.

Apple don't need to put the 24" back in the iMac line, you need your eyesight examining.

 

[Faustus]

You just compared a 15" with about 800x600 display to that of a 24" with over double screen real estate with 1920x1200. You don't understand, get an smart phone in you hand and blue tac to your bloody iMac screen with the over clockers forum loaded on each web browser.

Apple don't need to put the 24" back in the iMac line, you need your eyesight examining.

Your posts get ever more bizarre. If we follow your logic then there is no need for any screen larger than what? shall we say 21". Therefore Apple and every one else may as well discontinue their larger panels. Better still let's all just use a smartphone screen.

For the LAST TIME this thread is about what comes next for the 21.5" iMac - my preference being for a larger screen. Doh!

 

[Faustus]

I don't what he is always complaining about like where is this iMac going to go, whats the next upgrade...he only got his cheap for like £200 - begs the question why he can't just have his cake and eat it and get over it.

So your argument is that one isn't allowed to ask what the next iMac upgrade is likely to be unless you paid list price? Your not a politician are you?

 

[Blackhawk47]

So your argument is that one isn't allowed to ask what the next iMac upgrade is likely to be unless you paid list price? Your not a politician are you?

You keep saying that you need a 24" inch the line, you don't want the 27 inch which is the next step up and you don't like your 21.5". Text isn't going look any better if you compare the old 24" to the newer 21.5". Because the extra pixels that the 24" provides extra screen real estate...not larger text, and not a larger resolution on the same size screen.

I am out, I can't be bothered your like a broken record that no one can fix.

 

[Faustus]

You keep saying that you need a 24" inch the line, you don't want the 27 inch which is the next step up and you don't like your 21.5". Text isn't going look any better if you compare the old 24" to the newer 21.5". Because the extra pixels that the 24" provides extra screen real estate...not larger text, and not a larger resolution on the same size screen.

I am out, I can't be bothered your like a broken record that no one can fix.

And I suppose you didn't pick up on the fact that I use the NoSquint app many posts back also Right Zoom which lets you maximise windows to full screen therefore the extra inches provided by a 24" 1920x1200 would be filled to capacity. Doh!

Did you get the blackboard rubber thrown at you a lot at school for lack of concentration?

 

[Blackhawk47]

And I suppose you didn't pick up on the fact that I use the NoSquint app many posts back also Right Zoom which lets you maximise windows to full screen therefore the extra inches provided by a 24" 1920x1200 would be filled to capacity. Doh!

Did you get the blackboard rubber thrown at you a lot at school for lack of concentration?

It doesn't work like that, the 24" iMac used 16:10 1920x1200. The 21.5" uses a 16:9 1920x1080. They changed to the widescreen 16:9 a while back (better for movies). Apple is a business, I am sure there was a valid reason for the change. IMO the 24" always looked a little too square. Much prefer the screens in the newer iMacs. In store the 27" looks huge compared with the 21.5" but at home I prefer it.

 

[Faustus]

It doesn't work like that, the 24" iMac used 16:10 1920x1200. The 21.5" uses a 16:9 1920x1080. They changed to the widescreen 16:9 a while back (better for movies). Apple is a business, I am sure there was a valid reason for the change. IMO the 24" always looked a little too square. Much prefer the screens in the newer iMacs. In store the 27" looks huge compared with the 21.5" but at home I prefer it.

Yes but you keep referring to the OLD iMac 24" montitor and I am talking about if Apple were to release a new 24" model in the next refresh i.e. a high res 16.9 screen. As I also said earlier I'm not the only one that thinks this should happen CNET have also raised this in the review of the 21.5" iMac.

I have noticed I quoted the wrong pixel count in my last post - apologies.

 

[Faustus]

I was wondering in one of my idle mind moments where the current 21.5" iMac goes next when the refresh is due?

My own personal view is that at the very least they need to increase the screen size, possibly to 24". There now seems to be quite a number of Windows All in One's in the marketplace and whereas none have the design credentials of the iMac, quite a number of them are better specified have larger screen sizes and just as importantly are cheaper.

Next year will be quite a difficult year for many western economies as the austerity measures begin to bite. The U.S. in particular has an enormous amount of people out of work and all efforts thus far to stimulate that market have had little impact. I think if Apple wish to maintain sales then they need to be a little more realistic with pricing and what they offer.

Do you think Uncle Steve has been reading my posts then? Interesting article

 

[Talbs13]

Doubt it as he is currently battling cancer.

Nice post.

 

[PardonTheWait]

Yes but you keep referring to the OLD iMac 24" montitor and I am talking about if Apple were to release a new 24" model in the next refresh i.e. a high res 16.9 screen. As I also said earlier I'm not the only one that thinks this should happen CNET have also raised this in the review of the 21.5" iMac.

I have noticed I quoted the wrong pixel count in my last post - apologies.

THE TEXT WOULD GET SMALLER

 

[Faustus]

THE TEXT WOULD GET SMALLER

What are you talking about? I have a 24" monitor for my W7 machine and when I installed that in place of my 21" monitor the text didn't get smaller at all in fact it was LARGER. That's a full HD monitor by the way.

If we use your analogy then the text on the 27" iMac would be minuscule and the text on a 30" display would be invisible to the naked eye?

 

[Faustus]

Doubt it as he is currently battling cancer.

Nice post.

Yes he's meeting with President Obama tonight?

 

[Brian8bit]

Wait. Apple stopped making the 24" iMac and introduced the 21". So now they're going to turn round and stop making the 21" and start making the 24" again? That makes no sense.

 

[Faustus]

Wait. Apple stopped making the 24" iMac and introduced the 21". So now they're going to turn round and stop making the 21" and start making the 24" again? That makes no sense.

The article doesn't state that (BTW MacRumours also reporting on this). What is being reported is that they are rumoured to be introducing a further panel size plus an iMac for the mainstream market. Now if that is based on the U.S. model the mainstream market is around $750.

I think it would have to cost more than that personally or it will be in direct competition with the Mac Mini.

 

[Brian8bit]

Definitely a strange rumour. Unless they're making a smaller 19" version or something.

The only thing I really want on the 21" is the ability to use it as a stand alone monitor like the 27". I don't really care for touch screens as I hate fingerprints on my screen.

 

[Beasty]

Doubt it will change much, doesn't need to, too many cooks etc!

 

[Alfie]

A couple of things to add to this discussion.

Firstly there WILL NOT be another 30" iMac as the current trends have moved away from 16:10 aspect ratios in favour of 16:9, hence the 3 inches lost of vertical height in the 27" iMac and the 27" cinema display. a 30" 16:9 ratio display would be too big to work with.

In terms of where the iMac goes from here I would imagine sandybridge platform and so an i3 in the bottom end model. I also expect a move back to Nvidia graphics chipsets and an ssd on the logic board (a la macbook air) partnered with a mechanical disk for storage.