Which is the better card?

Nicksy · 14 Sep 2006 at 16:12

Connect3D ATI Radeon X1800 XT 256MB GDDR3 AVIVO TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
or
OcUK GeForce 7900 GS 256MB GDDR3 TV-Out/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)

Been out of the upgrading buisiness for a while now but have decided i need a new graphics card. Partly because i'm going to get a new board next year and it's time i step up to pci express.
So which is the better card or are they pretty much the same?

queamin · 15 Sep 2006 at 18:02

I would like to know too.
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locutus12 · 15 Sep 2006 at 18:05

X1800 XT 256MB by a few hundred miles.

the X1800 XT 256MB matched the 7900GT so its going to obliterate the lesser 7900GS.

queamin · 15 Sep 2006 at 18:09

Even when you over clock 7900gs as they ment to overclock very well ?,
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locutus12 · 15 Sep 2006 at 18:13

queamin said:
Even when you over clock 7900gs as they ment to overclock very well ?,
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even when you clock it. as the XT`s clock well also,

queamin · 15 Sep 2006 at 18:18

K thx
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locutus12 · 15 Sep 2006 at 18:23

theres a good review here by the way,

http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3946&s=1

unfortunatly they have only pitted it against an X1800XL for some reason... that card dissapeared over 10 months ago so god knows why but the rest of the review is quite ammusing, especially when he tried to make it into a full 7900GT

queamin · 15 Sep 2006 at 18:59

I will deside over the weekend what to order need to look at x1900gt as some say it beats the x1800 and some say it doesnot.
thx
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locutus12 · 15 Sep 2006 at 19:09

queamin said:
I will deside over the weekend what to order need to look at x1900gt as some say it beats the x1800 and some say it doesnot.
thx
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the X1800XT beats it the by quite a margin in "most" cases, but the X1900GT will out perform the X1800XT "barely" in shader intensive game engines, namely Oblivion.

Darkwave · 15 Sep 2006 at 19:26

As said many times above, the X1800XT is superior to a 7900GS by a fairly large margin. As for the question of X1800XT vs. X1900GT, the X1800XT is generally faster, but the X1900GT has been shown to take the lead in shader intensive games (i.e. Oblivion) due to having 36 shaders.

The only real reason to get an X1900GT though, is if you want to buy the HIS IceQ 3 version. That version really is quite a beast waiting to be unleashed.

ins0mn1ac · 15 Sep 2006 at 19:39

Ulfhedjinn said:
As said many times above, the X1800XT is superior to a 7900GS by a fairly large margin.

search benchmarks if your not swayed by this but tis true! anyway I was gonna say something simular but there you go!

ACESHIGH · 15 Sep 2006 at 23:39

The X1800XT is faster than the X1900GT (in most cases) & 7900GS.
The X1900GT is faster than the 7900GS.

The Asgard · 15 Sep 2006 at 23:44

locutus12 said:
the X1800XT beats it the by quite a margin in "most" cases, but the X1900GT will out perform the X1800XT "barely" in shader intensive game engines, namely Oblivion.

The X1800 is faster in Oblivion by about 25% at 1920x1200. Have both cards here and tested last night

Darkwave · 16 Sep 2006 at 02:03

The Asgard said:
The X1800 is faster in Oblivion by about 25% at 1920x1200. Have both cards here and tested last night

Aye, this is very true, but the X1900GT has a higher minimum framerate according to most benchmarks and we all know how important minimum framerate is in Oblivion. :eek:

The Asgard · 16 Sep 2006 at 07:29

Ulfhedjinn said:
Aye, this is very true, but the X1900GT has a higher minimum framerate according to most benchmarks and we all know how important minimum framerate is in Oblivion.

Not on my rig m8. I ran AtiTray with the OSD and in the wood/tree areas I got 17-19 FPS on the X1900GT that was average not peak. On the X1800 I got 25. It was far more fluid on the X1800. This was at 1920x1200. Medium Textures HDR.

Thats on a Badaxe running a 6600 at 3.6G's

wizardmaxx · 16 Sep 2006 at 07:58

Is the x1900gt quiter than the x1800xt. That may be a concideration, unless u playing games 24/7 or install aftermarket cooler.

The Asgard · 16 Sep 2006 at 11:11

wizardmaxx said:
Is the x1900gt quiter than the x1800xt. That may be a concideration, unless u playing games 24/7 or install aftermarket cooler.

Yes a lot quieter. Does not have the motor whine of the X1800XT

Darkwave · 16 Sep 2006 at 15:17

The Asgard said:
Not on my rig m8. I ran AtiTray with the OSD and in the wood/tree areas I got 17-19 FPS on the X1900GT that was average not peak. On the X1800 I got 25. It was far more fluid on the X1800. This was at 1920x1200. Medium Textures HDR.

Thats on a Badaxe running a 6600 at 3.6G's

That's quite interesting actually, but why were you running medium textures might I ask? Both of those cards should be able to handle high with ease.

The Asgard · 16 Sep 2006 at 16:00

Ulfhedjinn said:
That's quite interesting actually, but why were you running medium textures might I ask? Both of those cards should be able to handle high with ease.

Good question. To be honest it was just what was setup. No real reason.

It was just a quick play just to see if they were any good. Until I decide on a top end card.

I have actually gone for the X1800XT as opposed to this setup. Reason. I only have one maze 4 and the X1800XT at 700 Core seems really good.

Darkwave · 16 Sep 2006 at 18:18

The Asgard said:
I have actually gone for the X1800XT as opposed to this setup. Reason. I only have one maze 4 and the X1800XT at 700 Core seems really good.

I got my X1800XT to 730MHz core under air (VF900) so that should really make it fly. I have heard of people getting it to 780MHz under water.