Which job?

Judging by almost all of the posts he's previously started the OP is generally more concerned with salary than he is delivery to client/ability to deliver at all. I'm not overly surprised by his latest posting.
 
Quit job 1 now before you are properly rumbled as inadequate. Contractors live and breathe references, so you don't want a bad one. However leaving a contract early isn't great either.

Better go for a contract you can actually do next time.
 
Just re-reading this. You're a test manager and you have to google what a test execution plan is?

How have you been testing before, if not following a test execution plan? Just randomly bashing the keyboard with your forehead and noting the results?
 
Myshra said:
Do you hold an ISEB qualification?
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I hold every single ISEB qualification there is. Manager, analyst, all at practitioner.

robotCocks said:
i smell career suicide in the air
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Contractors don't have careers. If you fail at a contract you just tell the next client you succeeded and the project reached successful conclusion at which point there was no more work (!!)

Mr^B said:
Just re-reading this. You're a test manager and you have to google what a test execution plan is?

How have you been testing before, if not following a test execution plan? Just randomly bashing the keyboard with your forehead and noting the results?
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Previously - well apart from smoke testing, generally following a test script (I've written from the specs) bearing in mind the test strategy and test policy documents. Set (invented) my own execution schedule as I've gone along .. the test manager just saying 'uh - how long do you reckon it will take?' and 'uh - what did you do today then? What do you want to do tomorrow?'..

kae2 said:
So you're incompetent?
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At this role, that does appear to be the general gist .. I would say I do about 85% of the job ok. But the last 15% - well, that's kind of what the whole thread is about :/
 
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britboy4321 said:
Contractors don't have careers. If you fail at a contract you just tell the next client you succeeded and the project reached successful conclusion at which point there was no more work (!!)
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This attitude is what has got you into the mess you are in! You live by questionable ethics that are loosely based around "winging it". Well you flew too close to the sun this time buddy and you are going to get laughed out of the job.

This has to be a troll post. OP holds all the qualifications to do the job but can't actually do the job? WTH?!?!
 
True_Scotsman said:
This.

No offence but seems like you dont know how to do the job and applied for it anyway.
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Well yea .. in as much as a ambulance driver from sheffield may apply for a driving job in London saying 'I need no training I've done it for years', the new boss says 'cool' .. the driver gets there, and does not have a clue where Liverpool street is. Then the manager says 'WHOA you don't even know where Liverpool street is? wtf? That's blimin' hopeless mate ..' etc.
 
britboy4321 said:
Choose for me! IT contracts ..

1) 6 months contract. May be renewed to 9 but then THAT'S IT project over thanks for your time goodbye! Amazing money. Been there just 6 weeks. Boss said today I seemed 'out of my depth' and she 'likes the enthusiasm but not sure I can handle the work'. 6 minute walk to work. Very hard work and I am getting things wrong which a contractor ain't supposed to do ... did I mention ruddy good money? by the way I am already trying my hardest at this job at the 'I seem out of my depth' comment .. so don't say 'man up and get on with it' I do not have the capability to try harder ..

2) Back to old job I was at for years. Boss said I could definately have job back. 6 month contracts but highly likely to be extended (and extended and extended). Job easy but maybe dull. not challenging at all but I don't get any grief from anyone ever (because I can do it with my eyes shut - the job is pretty 'librarian' meaning for every problem there is a pre-defined solution already so just follow the instructions for 8 hours a day ...) 60% the money of job #1. 55 minute commute.
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Can you afford to be without money? Can you spare the time to put the effort in (14 hour days et al) to get up to speed? If so stick at the current job and hope you can wing it.

If not get out of there and get back to your old job.

They don't pay people all that money if they cannot do the job. Life of the contractor.

the_chicco said:
Don't. Because it's very apparent you don't.
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He does like to say how good he is and how much he earns! :D
 
the_chicco said:
Any contractor worth their salt does not take on something they cannot do. It's all about deliverables, you are normally on a project for a specific task. If you can't deliver you don't take the contract on, simple as. The contracting circles I used to work in everyone and their dog knew the bull****ters and who could actually walk the walk.
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I'm a permie but as part of my job I deal with contractors and it takes seconds to sniff our those who try to BS their way. One of those was shown the door last week...
 
the_chicco said:
Any contractor worth their salt does not take on something they cannot do. It's all about deliverables, you are normally on a project for a specific task. If you can't deliver you don't take the contract on, simple as. The contracting circles I used to work in everyone and their dog knew the bull****ters and who could actually walk the walk.
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I can do about 85 - 90% of the job with my eyes shut. I have never been to a contracting interview where they have spent more than maybe 30 minutes explaining the role and project. Thats not enough time to determine whether you can technically perform every task that will be demanded of you. You just kinda hope you can.

The contractors I have worked with are often the same, in fact more often than not. Can do about 90% of it. Work-around the rest.

Take for example C++ programmers. Often you find they weren't aware of some library existing, so have spent 2 unnecessary days programming functionality they didn't need to. Or need the company to get them a specific editor because they don't know how to use .vi (!!). stuff like that.

To be honest, software testing wouldn't exist at all if the business, BAs and developers could 100% do their job! I think the idea of contractors being amazing and being able to cruise through their 'area of expertise' on auto-drive are vastly exaggerated. You've been listening to contractors too much! As flavor flav once said .. 'Don't believe the hype' :)
 
[TW]Fox;18489858 said:
I wonder how much of what you post is just your own fantasy? I'd wager a hefty chunk of it is :)
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Oh you wager do you? Good. How much would you wager?

Let's make it worthwhile say £150 each into the pot? 3rd party holds the money and decides the outcome? You see I'm not overly bothered about anonymity on the net, so I can actually prove everything I have said quite easily. I reckon £150 to me will make the effort worthwhile. Of course the 3rd party decides the outcome so you can't just say .. 'um -- proof not good enough'.

Between companys house, my accountant and my signed contract, proving this lot ain't too hard!

So -- are you all talk and no action? Oh - you seem to have gone all quiet. My prediction - you think of some way to wriggle out of this. hoho.
 
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