Which one of these would you buy ?

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Sorry guys, I really want a Saab (don't ask why i just love them), i've looked at lots and lots, i don't have a lot to spend £4k max, ideally less.
If you could choose from these 3 which would you choose ?

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201142422103673/usedcars/postcode/bs226ba?logcode=kp

http://www.tjhaywardcarsales.co.uk/...tid-vector-150-4dr-auto-barry-201143424831709

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3294181.htm

Oh, and how much roughly can i expect to get for my 2L Mondeo Ghia (02) petrol, 5sp manual, 108k, new gearbox, clutch and flywheel at 95k, new starter motor a month ago ?

:D
 
First one but the seat and the gear lever look worn, one lady owner and a worn seat says to me short journeys and lots of stop starts, see if the clutch has been replaced and how much a replacement would be test it whilst there, also check if the next service is a biggy.
 
First one but the seat and the gear lever look worn, one lady owner and a worn seat says to me short journeys and lots of stop starts, see if the clutch has been replaced and how much a replacement would be test it whilst there, also check if the next service is a biggy.

I noticed that and simply assumed she was a whole lot of woman;):D
 
[TW]Fox;20445766 said:
And has a horrible shuddering diesel engine resonating through the cabin in traffic?

Not worth putting up with just for looks.

Perhaps not to you (or me either) but it might be to the OP, im burning through ~£80 of fuel a week in the Supra but it doesn't concern me in the slightest because I can, if I was on minimum wage and getting like £200 a week I would never contemplate doing it.

If the diesel gives him the car that looks the way he wants for the cost he wants more power to him, most people aren't so easy to please.
 
if I was on minimum wage and getting like £200 a week I would never contemplate doing it.

I am running a 1995 Impreza Turbo on a marginally above Minimum wage job :)

Unlikely to be doing massive miles on minimum wages really, and big miles justifies diesel savings, small miles the petrol is way more economical (petrol, servicing, DPF etc).
 
Give the guy a break!

If he wants a diesel, he wants a diesel. Given that they're the same/similar price as the petrols, why not? The Alfa 1.9 150bhp 16v diesel is actually a pretty good engine. Bit pricey in terms of cambelt changes and frequency of changes (which may well negate your savings since the petrol is chain cam) but the 1.9 is a decent engine and it feels thrusty and as diesel engines go, not too unrefined. It's the 2.2 GM diesel that you'd want to avoid because that's positively agricultural as well as noisy but he hasn't linked to any in his original post.

I bought a 9-3 recently (saw about 5-6 in various condition before plumping for the one I actually bought) and I would say buy on condition - the most well cared for, mechanically sound, newest (age wise) car that you can get. Loads look good in the ads but then when you actually get there they ain't so good. When I bought my car, I was also told by numerous Saab people to avoid the autos as they were pretty sluggish in terms of gear change quality and detracted from the driving experience. I'd also be worried about the auto failing at high mileages with the consequential mega cost. You seem to get the best value buying private as your typical Saab owner tends to look after them. Some dealers ask for silly money or the car's been punted into the trade because its not in good condition and the seller has struggled to sell it privately.

I'd strongly suggest looking at 1+3 and picking the most newest (age wise), most well looked after example. Make sure the cambelt/waterpump/tensioner etc has been done properly way before the 60k(?) interval and its not a snapped cambelt/engine damaged repaired example they're selling.
 
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I have the 195bhp petrol version, Mr Fox.

The mpg for pure city driving is eye watering - probably around 22/23mpg - its a bit too much of a heavy car to crawling through traffic in 1st and 2nd. On the motorway its pretty good - probably around 38mpg - maybe even 40mpg if you're really, really careful. On the open roads eg. A roads, somewhere in between depending on how much you hoon it or how careful you're being.

Since I've had the car, I've been getting around 27/28mpg overall for a roughly 50:35:15 / City:A road:Motorway split.
 
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The mpg for pure city driving is eye watering - probably around 22/23mpg -

Thats not really eye watering at all for pure city driving. I get 20mpg from my 530i, used to get 27mpg from a 530d, I get about 30mpg from 118d/320d's and about 26ish from my old 2.0 Mondeo.

Everything gets awful MPG in pure city driving from cold.

I'd be pretty happy with 23mpg. It's also fairly difficult to do huge long trips of pure city work. City work by its nature is short, stop start trips. And if you are not covering huge miles then the fact it does 23mpg isn't exactly a big deal.s
 
Yeah, but at 22/23mpg the fuel tank feels like it empties in no time at all. I find myself putting £70 or into the tank every 1.5-2 weeks. Don't know about you but it just feels like you get more 'warm and fuzzies' when you're not constantly at the Shell garage whipping out the credit card, paying for petrol and another 99p for a can of Coke...
 
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