who actually discovered what we now know as the USA?

It is possible that they migrated over a land bridge by the bering straits. But It seems more likely that they traveled across the ocean around that area or going the iceland greenland newfound land route. But the then the trek to south america would have been a long one. Then we could say that the ancestors of what is known as the indigenous population of the americas actually discovered it.
 
The vikings... and they made it all the way to South America.

There are a lot of stories of tall, blond, bearded people down there, like the Chachapoyans. The Amerindian ones can't really grow beards.

http://www.wanderlust.co.uk/magazine/articles/destinations/kuelap-city-of-the-cloud-people?page=all

The Chachapoyans were probably a loose confederation of cities and tribes. The Inca chronicler Garcilaso de la Vega, writing after the Spanish conquest, describes Inca Túpac Yupanqui defeating them in 1480. He refers to them as tall and fierce fighters. They built their cities and forts only in the ceja, high in the cloud-forest and on the ridge tops.

Little else is known; but theories abound

The most startling is that the Chachapoyans actually were Vikings. The evidence is flimsy. Another early Spanish historian, Cieza de León, noted that, “These Indians, natives of Chachapoyas, are the whitest... in the New World.” And the name Chachapoyans, probably derived from Quechua, could mean either ‘people living in the clouds’ or ‘cloud-like (ie white) people’.

The Vikings certainly reached North America, around 1000AD: might they have followed the coast to South America then sailed up the Amazon? It seems far-fetched. Yet Viking-like runes have been found in Argentina. The Incas worshipped a god called Viracocha, who was tall, white and bearded and came from the east. And near the town of Mendoza, just east of Kuélap, there is a curious phenomenon: isolated communities as blond and fair as any Scandinavian. Some claim they were there before the Spanish.
 
basically like anything gone by all a educated guess.

the most obvious would be indians or people actually who lived close or there in first place.

who would likely of discovered first someone living a mile away or thousands of miles away.
 
What an absolutely ridiculous thing to say.

I should have said "I doubt your average OCuKer is a history scholar with specialist interests in the discovery of the the North American lands."

Either way it's not a ridiculous thing to say. What the OP is asking is quite a question in a specialist area of history.
 
It's probably the Native Americans who discovered it first. What with already living there and all.


Well said that man, All this We discovered this country etc should just be changed to we conquered this country. Nothing wrong with conquering a country and stripping the place of it's wealth but at least be honest about it.
 
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The Vikings didn't 'discover' the Americas....the indigenous people's of the Americas were there long before the Vikings arrived.

The current consensus is that the Eurasian Hunter-Gatherer populations migrated along with the large herds of Herbivores they hunted across a land-bridge that is now the Baring Strait between 40,000 to 12,000 years ago.....

These people's are known as Paleo-Indians

There is plenty of Scientific Evidence both linguistic and genetic to support this theory.


However the term discover depends entirely on the context in which it is used, so Bjarni Herjolfsson could have been said to have discovered the Americas, as could Christopher Colombus, Amerigo Vespucci or if Gavin Menzies is to believed Admiral Zheng He.......it all depends on how you define the criteria......for the most part Columbus is considered the most important of the re-discovers because he was the one who created Permanent Colonial Commerce between the Americas and Europe which led the way to what we call modern America.
 
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Apparently the Brazilians would have found america first, they would have been the first humans their, but they continued onwards to south america, they've also changed the least originating from Africa as all humans have..

Back then, when ever then is, i don't have a date, they would have been in small black tribes, clinging to the coat line, apparently even today you can find small pockets of black tribes on the coast line of rivers while at the same time the bigger population may be Chinese or Indian..
If you follow the cost line out of the north-east side of Africa and onto Saudi Arabia it will take you all the way to the bearing sea and onto america.

South Americans have a much older history than north Americans.

After them, the native Indians came, which still today look a lot like people living in the far north-east of Russia, not so much like the Chinese. they still use wigwams and are still hunter gatherers.
 
Tbh those black South Americans were most likely from the slave trade which would be a much more recent event. If you notice North American Native Indians look quite similar to South American Native Indians, not African. so they would actually be the original ones over there.

http://www.roperld.com/graphics/MigrationMap.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spreading_homo_sapiens.svg

Couple of Maps to give an idea of the route the original people took to the Americas. Also the last ice age started roughly 100,000 years ago and ended 11,700 years ago, The coldest part, when massive glaciers extended as far south as Britain, happened between 25,000 and 20,000 years ago. So bare in mind all that ice the worlds oceans & seas would have been a fair bit lower, thus making the Bering strait a possible land bridge from Asia to North America.
 
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Tbh those black South Americans were most likely from the slave trade which would be a much more recent event. If you notice North American Native Indians look quite similar to South American Native Indians, not African. so they would actually be the original ones over there.

http://www.roperld.com/graphics/MigrationMap.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spreading_homo_sapiens.svg

Couple of Maps to give an idea of the route the original people took to the Americas. Also the last ice age started roughly 100,000 years ago and ended 11,700 years ago, The coldest part, when massive glaciers extended as far south as Britain, happened between 25,000 and 20,000 years ago. So bare in mind all that ice the worlds oceans & seas would have been a fair bit lower, thus making the Bering strait a possible land bridge from Asia to North America.

Are you saying tribes in Brazil are descendants from slave ships, yes their are slave descendants in Brazil, their are all kinds of people there but pure native Brazilians don't look like native american Indians and they also don't look like most Africans, but they're more closely related to Africans even though they have their own look, search Brazilian tribe, then search american Indian, both tribes/people look very different, both originate from a different place and time.

what i'm saying is, Brazilians got their first, as all humans have come out of African, the Brazilians spent less time in other lands before america and have changed the least, their facial features are more closely linked to an Africans than say a american Indians, which are more closely linked to a Mongolian.

Dr Alice Roberts made a show explaining what happened which went into detail about humans out of Africa.. Look her up, she's easier to understand than random links on the internet.




Anthropological and genetic evidence indicates that most Native American peoples descended from migrant peoples from North Asia (Siberia) who entered America across the Bering Strait or along the western coast of North America in at least three separate waves. In Brazil, particularly, most native tribes who were living in the land by 1500 are thought to be descended from the first Siberian wave of migrants, who are believed to have crossed the Bering Land Bridge at the end of the last Ice Age, between 13,000 and 17,000 years before the present. A migrant wave would have taken some time after initial entry to reach present-day Brazil, probably entering the Amazon River basin from the Northwest. (The second and third migratory waves from Siberia, which are thought to have generated the Athabaskan and Eskimo peoples, apparently did not reach farther than the southern United States and Canada, respectively).[citation needed]
An analysis of Amerindian Y-chromosome DNA indicates specific clustering of much of the South American population. The micro-satellite diversity and distributions of the Y lineage specific to South America indicates that certain Amerindian populations have been isolated since the initial colonization of the region.[5]


this makes sense
 
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