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Draeger

Draeger

Draeger

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There is a stretch of dual carriageway near me ( A80 between Stirling and Glasgow ) which is currently being upgraded to M-Way status. A long part of the journey in the 40mph limit between Mollinsburn and Haggs is watched over by average speed cameras which were switched on around November 2009. I try and avoid it as much as I can ( because of the road surface more than anything else just now, it's badly damaged due to the heavy plant traffic travelling on the road every day ) but sometimes have to travel on the road.

Anyway, I'm sitting at 40mph pootling along minding my own business and regularly I see folk who are obviously travelling at far above the 40mph level. For instance, this morning an 57 plate A6 Quattro goes winging by at what I would estimate at @60mph and tailgates the car in front. Guy in front can't go anywhere ( the lanes at one point are divided - if you want to come off at the next slip road you stay in the left lane, want to continue ahead towards Glasgow you stay in the right lane, both are divided by marker poles ).

Then after the slip road the marker poles vanish and the guy in front pulls over to let Mr A6 past. He then floors it again and tailgates the next guy who for whatever reason doesn't move over. So the A6 then undertakes him and blasts off into the distance again at a speed of at least 70mph until again, he gets stuck behind another car and begins to tailgate it.

I can't fathom this out. The incident above was just the latest but I see it almost everytime I am on that road from a wide mix of drivers/vehicles. Folk who ignore the 40mph limit and the avg speed cameras. Are they just stupid?. Unobservant?. Oblivious to what an average speed camera does and how it works?.

Or are they happy to just pay the fines when they drop through the letterbox as long as it means they manage to get ahead of everyone else by at least 2-3 minutes?. :rolleyes:

Why do they do it?. Answers on a postcard. :p
 
Plenty of idiots around like this sadly.

My favourite is when someone's flashing you to move from 3" off your rear bumper when there's 2 lanes of heavy traffic and lines of cars clearly visible infront of you as far as the eye can see.
 
Lots of SPECS cameras are just a housing, they don't have a camera in them at all. The 50 limit controlled by SPECS in the M25 western section widening works has loads of cameras that are most likely empty boxes - at night you can see the red glow from the IR lights on the cameras that are active, and only a few pairs of them actually light up.

That said, even if I thought I knew which cameras were turned off, I still wouldn't risk it!
 
OllyM said:
Lots of SPECS cameras are just a housing, they don't have a camera in them at all. The 50 limit controlled by SPECS in the M25 western section widening works has loads of cameras that are most likely empty boxes - at night you can see the red glow from the IR lights on the cameras that are active, and only a few pairs of them actually light up.

That said, even if I thought I knew which cameras were turned off, I still wouldn't risk it!
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But surely even only having half of them on would still work... it's still an average afterall :p
 
I've often wondered the same thing!

I remember reading (some time ago) that you just had to change lanes after you have passed the first set of cameras to fool them?
 
Never underestimate how many cars have fake numberplates on them...

There are some statistics released regularly - I think it was from the firm responsible for London Congestion charging - which highlighted just how many cars there are on the road with another car's plates.
 
Freefaller said:
I'm surprised by the number of people blasting through average speed enforced zones. I wonder if they all get tickets/caught?
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Exactly, you have to be pretty dumb to get caught by most SPECS.

Most of the SPECS I have seen warn you a mile before that there are average speed cameras and what your speed should be, yet still I see people flying through them.
 
During the construction of the Dalkeith bypass there were SPECs on the Edinburgh bypass. During the first 2 weeks and despite the numerous signs hundred of people were being caught, this was years after SPECs were first introduced and yet you still saw people speed up and slow down as they passed the cameras.
 
So irritating when you get a driver behind you like this. What can you do though? There's no "**** off button" you can press to get them off your back, and you can't exactly brake heavily.

In addition it's even worse for me being in such a low car, as I often have headlights right in my line of sight/mirror reflection.
 
It's because 'average' these days means 'not very good'. For example one might tell someone they are 'of average intelligence', or one might say that Chelsea played 'averagely' at the weekend.

If they had signs saying 'AWESOME Speed Cameras', I think people would be a lot more scared of them.
 
platypus said:
So irritating when you get a driver behind you like this. What can you do though? There's no "**** off button" you can press to get them off your back, and you can't exactly brake heavily.

In addition it's even worse for me being in such a low car, as I often have headlights right in my line of sight/mirror reflection.
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slowly let your foot of the accelerator to around 30-35 then speed back up to 40 , keep doing it for aslong as they dont get the message
 
my personal thought is that they have to be on cloned plates.

You just couldnt afford to go round like that accumulating 3 points at a time.
 
These people you mention appear to be the new breed of Audi drivers who have indeed taken the mantle of 'biggest ****ers on the road'.

On so many occasions i have had an Audi (mainly A3s i have to say) come passed my on the dual carriage outside my house, then immediately cut in front of me as they want to turn left at the next junction :rolleyes:.

Either this or the left lane will be busy so they fly down the right lane and muscle their way in cos they're too sodding impatient :mad:
 
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