So you actually see people going around with 24" and larger tablets?
Whos staying on Win7 and whos going to Win8?
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So you actually see people going around with 24" and larger tablets?
No, did you totally miss the dock a screen bit, exactly what we allready do at work with laptops. In the office they are docked to a screen. We only have a handful of desktops, for communal use desks.
No big company is going to risk NDA project work online. Connections go down. Time is money and they wouldn't risk that.
I wouldn't really class that as big. Sounds like media related, journalists.
You know what every company does?
...and the quality of these screens? colour accuracy etc?
...and the quality of these screens? colour accuracy etc?
Of course every company doesn't. Doesn't mean thy can't, isn't mean that's not the direction many companies are going.
What do you not understand about docking a screen to a tablet/laptop. It is no differen't to pluging a screen into a desktop. You can use any screen you want. Just shows how you know zilch.
Not the way you made it out to be.
That it's for consumers. Not professional work. Yes, apparently I know nothing.
That's just rubbish, or is declining over the coming years, not clear enough. It's not going to happen fast, but it will happen. Conventional markets are going to shrink. Just like any release it takes ears for Coporations to catch up, as it has to be tested and of course the inacial issues and raining needed to roll out new IT. Let me guess you're reading what you want to read, not what's on the page in front of you, just like the screens.
WTf are you on about, you clearly know nothing. Windows8 is a full fledged OS, you can plug any monitor into win8 tablet and calibrate it in exactly the same way as a calibrating a desktop. There is no difference. Where the hell are you getting this proffesional/consumer rubbish from.
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Has it completely passed you by that even Surface 1.0 has a DisplayPort / HDMI output?
That's just the start.
The high end tablets will be sporting 3 or 4 display outputs before long, via a docking interface.
I'm a "professional" as you put it, I need 2 or 3 monitors to get my work done. And yet Win8 tablets are very exciting to me. What does this tell you?
Desktops are not going to die out. It will be laptops that are killed off by the tablets, which is fine. I think the Microsoft Surface tablets look great, with a nice plug in keyboard, and Windows 8/Metro will be brilliant for these, but I still think it is extremely stupid that we are locked into this metro UI for desktops, they should have included an option to remove it for DESKTOPS. I don't think anybody will ever be able to convince me otherwise.
What about graphical power? How many people do you think will be using tablets for CAD, PhotoShop and graphical rendering to say the least?
Yes, the GPU power of them will increase, but it'll be a very long time before a tablet based GPU rivals a Quadro or FirePro for computational power.
Like Xenon said, I don't think desktops are going to go anywhere. They will always be needed, and many power users/gamers will prefer them as well.
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that's a really good point, N19h7m4r3! the computing power of tablets may well be impressive but nothing like the power of a desktop with 4 or more cores as well as enhanced graphics output via special cards. Anyone who needs the graphics, whether for work or for gaming, is not going to be swapping for a tablet - it just won't cut it. more likely, it seems to me, is that people will but a tablet as well and use both, but no way is the desktop going away any-time soon.
Nobody is claiming desktops will just disappear. Not to the same degree that laptops will anyway.
Have you heard of Thunderbolt? It provides a external PCI-Express interface. It won't be long until there are graphics cards that can be plugged in like this.
But still, I think cloud/grid computing and other scalable offloading will mitigate the need in the future for high power rendering cards in an individual person's machine. But that's more of a software problem than a hardware problem.
I'm actually amazed that the concept of plugging a keyboard, mouse and monitor into a tablet is one that some people on this forum actually struggle with...
I can't see the tablet killing the desktop completely - there's definitely a case for it in niche environments where cheap or more powerful computers are needed. I'd cite examples, but they've already been mentioned.
I think there's a simple reason why there's currently no 'classic start menu' and 'boot to desktop' options - Metro needs time to develop. They need people to use it, to use the apps, to give them feedback about what they do and don't like. At present, if they provided such options there would be no doubt that Metro would die - users could just sweep it aside and forget it exists. By the time Windows 9 rolls around Metro will have grown in to an asset and they will have gained sufficient feedback to be able to decide whether they want to adapt it to suit those users who didn't upgrade from 7, or just provide those much requested 'classic start menu' and 'boot to desktop' options. The plan is long-term here - it's not about shifting as many W8 licenses as possible, but rather it's about shaping the platform for the future. Having some users skip from W7 straight to W9 doesn't seem to be of much concern.
I can't see the tablet killing the desktop completely - there's definitely a case for it in niche environments where cheap or more powerful computers are needed. I'd cite examples, but they've already been mentioned.
I think there's a simple reason why there's currently no 'classic start menu' and 'boot to desktop' options - Metro needs time to develop. They need people to use it, to use the apps, to give them feedback about what they do and don't like. At present, if they provided such options there would be no doubt that Metro would die - users could just sweep it aside and forget it exists. By the time Windows 9 rolls around Metro will have grown in to an asset and they will have gained sufficient feedback to be able to decide whether they want to adapt it to suit those users who didn't upgrade from 7, or just provide those much requested 'classic start menu' and 'boot to desktop' options. The plan is long-term here - it's not about shifting as many W8 licenses as possible, but rather it's about shaping the platform for the future. Having some users skip from W7 straight to W9 doesn't seem to be of much concern.
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i dont want to access apps progs or whatever buy reaching forward at a screen that is ergonomically sited to reduce all the problems with DSE and swipe my hand or touch a screen all day long simple as that
it will be a niche market untill it can be movement or sight recognitive as in wii or head tracking or movement sensing xbox and so on
but to think people will operate pcs by reaching to a screen that is at the optimum distance and play games, use normal office apps is never happening..
tablets in front of you on the desk maybe but that is for limited time usage not for extended periods..
DSE and physio referals will go overboard in a few short days.. lol
as far as plugging a keyb or mouse into a tablet is concerned thats not a prob i do it now for short periods. the reason is to .... make the tablet more like a lappy or a netbook cause swippping all day long is a pain
but imagine a 30 " screen controlled by hand swipes only you wont last long... without a visit to occ health np more work for me i guess...
win 8 is just a fancy UI over a normal OS i run win 8 along side all my other OS
strip the ui and run it as win7 vista 2k xp what evers its just windows
the point is no one will use swipe for extended periods tottaly not practical untill its movement recognitive, or oral recognitive.
it will be a niche market untill it can be movement or sight recognitive as in wii or head tracking or movement sensing xbox and so on
but to think people will operate pcs by reaching to a screen that is at the optimum distance and play games, use normal office apps is never happening..
tablets in front of you on the desk maybe but that is for limited time usage not for extended periods..
DSE and physio referals will go overboard in a few short days.. lol
as far as plugging a keyb or mouse into a tablet is concerned thats not a prob i do it now for short periods. the reason is to .... make the tablet more like a lappy or a netbook cause swippping all day long is a pain
but imagine a 30 " screen controlled by hand swipes only you wont last long... without a visit to occ health np more work for me i guess...
win 8 is just a fancy UI over a normal OS i run win 8 along side all my other OS
strip the ui and run it as win7 vista 2k xp what evers its just windows
the point is no one will use swipe for extended periods tottaly not practical untill its movement recognitive, or oral recognitive.
No one is saying it's impossible for a child to use a mouse for playing with Metro. The point at hand is that such a childish UI is impractical and unproductive for professional use. Professionals simply do not have time for faffing around with widgets, swiping here and there, dragging this and that, navigating massive buttons, etc...
Don't get me wrong I am a fan of Microsoft, I do wish them success with their bold vision. I even used Vista from the RC right up until 7 came out and don't have a single bad thing to say about it.
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That is exactly what is wrong with win8. You get the impression ms is making things up as they go along. Throw ideas out there to see what the reaction is. Give ppl the impression the company is clueless. All that goodwill from win7 down the drain.
There would not be this vitriol towards win8 if it was created for tablets. No, ms ****ed off millions of desktop users that exist today, and dream they can attract new tablet users tomorrow.