Why does vista check for a solution to a crash and then do absolutley nothing?

Energize · 11 Dec 2008 at 18:27

Can someone please tell me why when a program crashes vista spends 5mins raping the hard drive and then does nothing afterwards when it is supposed to be looking for a solution? How can such bad programming be allowed in vista? I would be thrown out of university for making such poor software so god knows how they got a job at microsoft.

Richiev4 · 11 Dec 2008 at 18:27

I've often wondered that - answers on a postcard please!

thepharcyde · 11 Dec 2008 at 18:36

I would imagine that it is logged on a server, and similar issues would be collated and fixed in updates etc if it is deemed necessary.

bledd · 12 Dec 2008 at 10:45

first off, what program?

quite often your av is scanning something that a program is doing, and if you try to close it before it finishes, it'll crash -internet browsers get this a lot with certain scripts on ALL operating systems

as pharcyde says, some problems are acknowledged and windows will tell you 'you need patch xx for program yy'

^i've seen this with winamp and a few others

EvilOne · 12 Dec 2008 at 11:57

So they can get info about bugs they need to fix on next version of windows

Energize · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:43

bledd. said:
first off, what program?

quite often your av is scanning something that a program is doing, and if you try to close it before it finishes, it'll crash -internet browsers get this a lot with certain scripts on ALL operating systems

as pharcyde says, some problems are acknowledged and windows will tell you 'you need patch xx for program yy'

^i've seen this with winamp and a few others

It's company of heroes. Real time scanning is disabled, uses too many rescources and can cause conflicts.

dave-lew99 · 12 Dec 2008 at 12:59

Believe it or not, the 'checking for solutions' thing does actually work - i had a random bluescreen the other day, i rebooted, the 'checking for solutions' box popped up and a few seconds later it deemed my webcam driver as the culprit.

Regardless what you say of microsoft, it's such a massive system that these things are inevitable if you were working on a project that big the same sort of things would creep in. There are lots of intertwined reasons why something which appears simple cannot just simply be changed.

BoB3rt · 12 Dec 2008 at 13:35

title made me giggle. =)

bledd · 12 Dec 2008 at 13:41

Energize said:
It's company of heroes. Real time scanning is disabled, uses too many rescources and can cause conflicts.

agreed on real-time scanning btw..

my COH runs through steam, can't say i've had any issues

does it do it on startup?

tried other drivers?

i'll post on the relic forum for you if you give more info

Energize · 12 Dec 2008 at 14:22

I've already posted on relic, doesn't do it on startup.

TheVoice · 12 Dec 2008 at 14:27

Vista's solution checking is, unsurprisingly, usually only effective at troubleshooting Windows-specific problems; that is, things that are causing a problem for Windows itself. They can't take into account every error that every program or game ever is going to create, so I'm not really sure what you're expecting it to do. It's got nothing to do with bad programming, as far as Vista is concerned.

Energize · 12 Dec 2008 at 14:52

TheVoice said:
I'm not really sure what you're expecting it to do.

Perhaps alert the user? So you know that it hasn't failed and has completed instead of leaving the user waiting forever wondering what is going on. I'm left thinking, "has it completed, has it crashed, why isn't it alerting me?", amateur design!

PhillyDee · 12 Dec 2008 at 16:20

True, but it does tell you in the reliability bit . . . .
Steam always crashes for me. Or more specifically, windows always thinks that a program has closed due to an error. Yes, the QUIT button . . . .

Energize · 12 Dec 2008 at 16:22

PhillyDee said:
Yes, the QUIT button . . . .

God that is annoying, you close a program and windows thinks it has crashed, even xp didn't do that. :rolleyes:

Memphis · 12 Dec 2008 at 16:23

Are you going to make a post about every single tiny thing you find you don't like about Vista?

Blackbadger · 12 Dec 2008 at 16:40

You can disable the process from happening in the control panel.

TheVoice · 12 Dec 2008 at 16:49

Energize said:
God that is annoying, you close a program and windows thinks it has crashed, even xp didn't do that.

Have had that happen in XP, don't think it's happened much in Vista though. At least not with anything I use often.

Deleted member 77746 · 12 Dec 2008 at 16:54

dave-lew99 said:
Regardless what you say of microsoft, it's such a massive system that these things are inevitable if you were working on a project that big the same sort of things would creep in. There are lots of intertwined reasons why something which appears simple cannot just simply be changed.

This is why programs will be never bug free unless companies worked along side one another. How does one company know what another company does what and how they make the application.......

Deleted member 77746 · 12 Dec 2008 at 16:56

Energize said:
Can someone please tell me why when a program crashes vista spends 5mins raping the hard drive and then does nothing afterwards when it is supposed to be looking for a solution? How can such bad programming be allowed in vista? I would be thrown out of university for making such poor software so god knows how they got a job at microsoft.

Take this up with Microsoft. Maybe you would like to work at Microsoft yeh? Let us all know if you ever get a job with them. Everyone on OcUK would love to see you develop such a high end os with no problems at all. We all await your new os yeh?

Energize · 12 Dec 2008 at 17:05

optitech-uk said:
Take this up with Microsoft. Maybe you would like to work at Microsoft yeh? Let us all know if you ever get a job with them. Everyone on OcUK would love to see you develop such a high end os with no problems at all. We all await your new os yeh?

Herring, red?