Why have we jumped to 4K?

ThatsWhatSheSaid said:
Soooo… you ignored everyone who disagreed with you?

Your specific opinion is the minority… even in your own thread, targeting support for your idea…

How does one talk to someone who has literally gone public stating they can’t see the information that’s right in front of their face that everyone else can?

Your thread is literally created from the idea that others can see what you can’t… it’s the basic premise and trying to validate you as you are now… yet typical cognitive bias led to to regularly reply to informative posts by repeating yourself instead of actually noticing it.

Maybe I’m the only one who’s on the verge of helping you pay more attention to the world around you… but of course, you’ll only ever read this as a narcissistic intent… I couldn’t simply be surprised and working for you to take note… like I said, we see others as we are, and you labelled me without exploring my intent… so what does that say about you?

It’s ok to notice and accept your own personal limits… it’s not a fun part of life, but it’s real… how have I actively tried to hurt you other than get your attention to call you on your bull****? I don’t have to sugar coat it for your sensibilities… those who did try that, were clearly and regularly ignored…
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The world around me does not equate to the truth... I don't, that is why I have backed facts, not just me... a sheep can be a sheep and led to a field full of beauty or the slaughter. Money involved? You can gather there is some slaughtering going on, the animal will otherwise take too much from them, the animal is a threat to their empire and existence.

One thing you are hell bent on for sure though is being correct even in light of all intellectual capability here, evidence or none.
 
ThatsWhatSheSaid said:
Again clearly avoiding the point at hand, I didn’t expect much more. The world around me, the majority of people in this thread, the majority of technology adopters with buying power… the basic science… all disagree with you and the hilariously distance/resolution scale diagram that was posted out of context. I tried to balance it with relevant information, but as expected… you ignored the information because it didn’t agree with you. Just like all other narcissistic people…

At least I attempted to offered a balanced perspective and development of information… but you’re not capable of that, are you?

Best of luck to you
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There is only you arguing so hard and trying to paint me as something I am not and you have failed miserably, you won't stop because you have a weak ego, so you must continue.
In the end you only came here for selfish desire, not curiosity, not to have any type of intelligent discussion.


Do you think people automatically submit when they know they are not incorrect?

Difference here is you tout money whilst I tout facts, everything is just a display of ego from you, you are trying to paint me as below you...


Then because I used an accurate analysis on you, you think you can do the same but you have no self control or knowledge of what you speak of, or ability to reason or heed facts, you only care about yourself and your own eyes.


Money =/= intellect. Only power.
 
Both of those images are zoomed right in.. and my eye sight blurs to crap at that distance. 20cm from my face starts to strain my eyes.

They zoomed in to show a difference, not from any kind of normal distance and no the black lines don't do anything to colour.

I like how above and that other user use their facts with no backing and try to bring down people who are qualified in such matters.
Hilarious to see.
 
Grim5 said:
My condolences for your boomer eyes. Whether you're 60 years old or not, your eyes must be if you can't see a difference. Luckily you can get help, there is specsavers or even laser
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Millennial eyes, it's funny I can read off a car license plate from a good 100 meters or more but hardly see a difference between 1080P and a 4K one in a store unless I am right up to it.
Must be my bad eyes.

4K8KW10 showing marketing pics... no surprises there.

I have lost faith in finding any intelligence in most places these days.
 
DeliciousStorage said:
It's very clear that other people can see a big difference at a regular viewing distance so I think you found your answer. There is a point of diminishing returns for resolution but 1080p isn't it for most people. You also have my condolences for losing the eyesight genetic lottery.


Trolling forums is a strange way of looking for intelligence.
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Using the word "Trolling " is todays way of shutting down your opposition when you have nothing to give instead of using the mind. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Reverse Trolling

Using stupid accusations that I must have no eyes or bad vision too.

You also never looked into all the different ways that 4K screens trick you with better colour gamut, HDR etc, there is more, but the resolution it's self is not what you are seeing a major difference with.

Calling someone a troll is damaging to the thread but also the reputation of the person but it don't mean people who comprehend what is said see it as trolling, it just means there is a separation between people who think alike.
The more intelligent are not fast to call others labels though unless fully evidenced and warranted.
 
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4K8KW10 said:
They are not unfair. Watch this video:


The right part is always blurred, washed out and the colour representation is obviously worse.



The 1080p bird on a 2160p 4K will look better again because of the higher pixel per inch. Retina screen vs non-retina screen.
Also, the 4K TV most likely has a more modern processing which will try to upscale and compensate the differences.
But native 4K is in all cases the best.

Until we up to 8K :)
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Here is a test for you.

Do you have a 1080P screen handy?

I have taken an image from that video of the 4K camera vs the HD one.

Now tell me, does it still look way sharper and better on the 4K one?

I already know the answer is yes.

Want to know why?

When a camera resolves an image it is processing an image into a data file, the more raw data there is to be stored, the better the output quality just like movies that are encoded.

At 1080P and even 1440P or 4K, this difference is night and day yet you are still looking at that image between different resolutions.

How strange!

The HD output on this camera is just bad.

Try using a dedicated quality HD camera.


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Accounting for this screen being 2560x1440 native at 27" with a PPI of 109.. my naked eye cannot see any of the lines on the screen even at 1080P and neither can yours from the distance I took these two photos.
This is shot at a distance of around 1.3 feet.

Cameras can pick up way more than our vision, especially infrarared ... this is just my crappy Moto G8 phone camera.

And yet you can still see a marked improvement even on 1080P which looks very blurry because it is not a native screen resolution on my panel and the pixel layout is completely out of sync to 1080P.

Both images are highly grainy because the camera is also picking up all the black lines on the panel so it interferes with the picture regardless, this is a drawback of cameras. They simply pick up more.



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This image here is from sitting back into my chair which would be roughly 2 feet.

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Even the camera which picks up way more than we can, cannot resolve anything but a full image, which is not as limited as a humans eye sight.

Cameras also pick up backlight way more than our naked eye on all displays.
 
gpuerrilla said:
I am getting confused. If your saying a 4k image/resolution is not much better than a 1080p one, then equally what is the point in having 1440p?

Surely for graphic design, content creation, workflows, watching movies etc. there must be a difference - but the way I am reading the last page anyway is basically just go back to a 1080p monitor and we can all sing kumbaya?
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Because I sit very close to my screen just like you or anyone else.

Video games benefit from higher resolution due to the way they are rendered; aliasing. Movies and images.. not so much most people don't sit anywhere as close to the screen as someone at a PC.
 
sandys said:
All depends on the person and the content, these same discussions happened when 1080p became a thing, oooh its not worth it etc, but again it was all about the quality of the content, the display and the context within which it was used.

In general I prefer UHD enough to pay extra for its content, my missus doesn't get it at all, though she does notice the difference between SD and HD at least so that is something but it is clear our eyes are in a different place. Scalers on screens do a great job of fixing 1080p content on 4k screens that you think you don't need (need is not the right term) the UHD source but when you buy 4k bluray you get both the 1080p and the 4k UHD and despite cracking scalers I've not seen a case where 4K doesn't trump 1080p.

For work I use a 4k for CAD and do so on a large 43inch screen as I need real estate to see the content, unfortunately that resolution is a bit low for that size screen and how close I am sat and I could do with something middle ground like 5 or 6k, 8k is too much of a jump for my eyes well at the size that gets typically sold for design work, 8k @ 32" with no scaling is :eek:.
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Well us men have an ego to uphold, but you have a marked use case for 4K and even higher. 42" is stupid at a normal PC sitting distance IMO, but I can definitely see it being beneficial for critical work.

Sadly most men because they lack in other areas tend to gravitate towards upholding what they purchase as a status symbol and don't put in the brain power to understanding what they have which I would assume the missus would enjoy hearing about if she is not a total douch nozzle or has the time. If she is below your intelligence level so you can't talk to her, you now get my issue with some people.. being unheard is awful.

Passion, women love it.. at least some do.. I dunno choose wisely I say.

I chose intelligence from a woman, people gravitate towards all sorts...
 
sandys said:
You are entitled to your opinion and perhaps it is true for how you use it but I actually have my 4k on arm so I can pull it even closer for some gaming, racing games for example, when I have my wheel out, where your field of view is consumed by display are awesome, again all about the content and context, sure it's not VR but the immersion is high.
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That sounds pretty awesome in all fairness, I can visualize the experience you are getting somewhat.

My 31" 1440P 75hz is on an arm at the end of the bed so Netflix and chill and gaming in 1 combo, XBOX One X when I feel lazy.
Lay back, ignore the world or sit at the comp and play with better control in games that require it and better visuals.

We are not miles apart it seems.
 
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