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Why would anyone buy a 6970 over this GTX480

TEC under water is the best way to tame Fermi. They respond well to cooling and all the high end HSF seems to do is shut the card up.

It would be stupid voiding your warranty and spending £40 -£50 on top for a quite GTX480 when £210 gets you a HD6970.

Same old biased BS from yourself again, do you ever give it a rest? :rolleyes:

Please point out the pointlessness.
 
Radeon 6950 with unlocked shaders and some overclocking (960MHz on core = 20% overclock) should be some 10% faster than a stock 6970. Cost - £210.

Relative performance at 1920x1200 - GTX480=GTX570=HD6970

GeForce 480 with an aftermarket cooler and 20% overclock will pull ahead of the 6970. It does consume a lot more power, especially when you start overvolting (power leakage is significant) but the card should be this 10% faster at 1920x1200. Go higher resolution and the two will be more or less on par.

There really isn't much into it unless you need CUDA, do a lot of parallel computing.

GeForce 480 + Zalman VF3000F should settle you at £230 or so. It's a steal as long as you don't mind voiding the warranty.

In fact both cards are very good value, it's really down to the personal preference IMO.

Bear in mind there's a handful of games that favour either Nvidia or AMD - it might be a deal breaker for some?
 
Please point out the pointlessness.

Your posts are pointless and just serve to wind people up.

Let's get this straight you do not need 3rd party cooling for a 480 unless you want absolute silence when gaming.

I've had my 480 since release and I'm still on the stock cooling with no issues whatsoever.

It's barely any louder than my previous card, and once a fan profile is setup it's pretty quiet in the majority of games.

Do you honestly think Nvidia would release a card with inadequate cooling?

Do you honestly think Nvidias partners would want countless RMAs due to inadequate cooling?

Of course not!

you're just spouting your usual anti-Nvidia BS and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
 
Used the 480 before selling and never had a problem with noise (no different from any other card I owned) or temperature whilst gaming.
 
Your posts are pointless and just serve to wind people up.

Let's get this straight you do not need 3rd party cooling for a 480 unless you want absolute silence when gaming.

I've had my 480 since release and I'm still on the stock cooling with no issues whatsoever.

It's barely any louder than my previous card, and once a fan profile is setup it's pretty quiet in the majority of games.

Do you honestly think Nvidia would release a card with inadequate cooling?

Do you honestly think Nvidias partners would want countless RMAs due to inadequate cooling?

Of course not!

you're just spouting your usual anti-Nvidia BS and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Being a ex 480 owner i have to agree with Coupe,the crap people post about the 480 are people that havent even owned the card in the first place.

You get a good air cooling case and not some cheap crappy case and the 480 will not get that loud or hot to moan about.

And to suggest that watercooling is a must for this card is frankly pathetic.
 
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You get a good air cooling case and not some cheap crappy case and the 480 will not get that loud or hot to moan about.

And to suggest that watercooling is a must for this card is frankly pathetic.

Exactly, if you're running a high end card in a 30 quid case, everythings going to get hot and noisy, not just the video card! :D
 
I was just looking at that GTX 480 and decided to compare it against my 6970. They are really close and in some cases the 480 overtakes the 6970.

I just can't get over how cheap it is. So what clear advantages does the 6970 have at it's price point over the 480?

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-222-AS

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-026-HS

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/292?vs=309

I realise it's a pre-order price... but still!

Eyefinity, heat and power consumption basically - 3 things the 480 can't compete on even after lowering it's price to match.
 


I have actually tested the card, on air, water, tec and in a freezer at -40.


The HSF linked to will not improve the clock speed of fermi IMO, they will only reduce the noise levels and dump a lot of heat into the case. If spending £40-50 on voiding your brand new GTX480 warranty for ZERO performance gain seem like a good idea then that might be the way to go. Although I'm not sure why anybody would do this when you can get all that under warranty £210.


I my experience, if you want BIG performance out of Fermi ( The oly point the architecture doesn't fail horribly on ) you need to lower the temp dramatically as you are dealing with a BIG, HOT, INEFFICIENT 400~watt card. To deal with this I ( me, not some guy on Youtube ) have found you need very good water cooling, and even that is sometimes not enough to bring the temps down. Strap on a 400~ watt TEC and and we found you start to find some head room to work with. If its all worth it I'm not sure, but it will let you push the card that little bit more.

IMO and most other people I know you should run the GTX480 stock or go all out and push for 900+. Paying £40-50 to void the warranty of a brand new GTX480 for the same performance just seems dumb to me so maybe I don't have a clue, as its all seems clueless to me, but hay ho I submit as some people here seem to have masses of experience in such exercises...


Let's get this straight you do not need 3rd party cooling for a 480 unless you want absolute silence when gaming.

Had your ears tested lately ?
 
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^^ Full of it, you have tested nothing.

I shouldn't reply to such rubbish but reviews have shown the Zalman and icy to increase overclocks, your logic fails. Complete troll.
 
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I have actually tested the card, on air, water, tec and in a freezer at -40.


The HSF linked to will not improve the clock speed of fermi IMO, they will only reduce the noise levels and dump a lot of heat into the case. If spending £40-50 on voiding your brand new GTX480 warranty for ZERO performance gain seem like a good idea then that might be the way to go. Although I'm not sure why anybody would do this when you can get all that under warranty £210.


I my experience, if you want BIG performance out of Fermi ( The oly point the architecture doesn't fail horribly on ) you need to lower the temp dramatically as you are dealing with a BIG, HOT, INEFFICIENT 400~watt card. To deal with this I ( me, not some guy on Youtube ) have found you need very good water cooling, and even that is sometimes not enough to bring the temps down. Strap on a 400~ watt TEC and and we found you start to find some head room to work with. If its all worth it I'm not sure, but it will let you push the card that little bit more.

IMO and most other people I know you should run the GTX480 stock or go all out and push for 900+. Paying £40-50 to void the warranty of a brand new GTX480 for the same performance just seems dumb to me so maybe I don't have a clue, as its all seems clueless to me, but hay ho I submit as some people here seem to have masses of experience in such exercises...




Had your ears tested lately ?
Complete crap go away.
 
Yeah of course it will, it cools the GPU significantly better than the stock HS, the Voltage regulators get direct air blown on to them increasing overclock stability even more. Don't feed the troll that has no clue.
 
^^ Full of it, you have tested nothing.

I shouldn't reply to such rubbish but reviews have shown the Zalman and icy to increase overclocks, your logic fails. Complete troll.

Coming from the guy that told us all the HD6970 is 40% than the GTX580 I'm not sure how to take that.

My price check for the three GTX480's I tested...

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18221944&highlight=GTX480


LOL I actually specifically mentioned the testing in the thread too.
 
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Sucking down all that power has clear consequences for the card’s thermal output, and while the GTX 480 idles at a balmy 20°C above room temperature in our 22°C air conditioned labs with a low and utterly un-intrusive fan noise to match, things change for the worse at full load. The GPU temperature rapidly rises to a heady 94°C – 72°C above the ambient room temperature, where the fan speeds up to whatever speed necessary to keep the GPU from getting any hotter.

The result is a graphics card that runs extremely hot at full load, and that coupled with the unique external heatsink it could easily be rebranded the GTX 480 Griddle Edition - the heatsink in our test rig, which, bear in mind is a roomy Antec Twelve Hundred, hit 67°C, which is enough to burn your skin. Nvidia recommends spacing the cards at least two expansion slots apart in an SLI configuration and even then we suspect there will be raft of watercooled editions of the GTX 480 to counteract the massive thermal demands of the GPU.

Adding insult to injury the GTX 480 is also extremely noisy when under load, easily matching the racket of the HD 5970 and comparable to a DVD-ROM drive at full speed when striving to keep the GPU at 94°C. The 65mm paddle fan was easily the loudest component in our Antec 1200 test chassis and was clearly audible from 6ft away through a closed side panel.

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2010/03/27/nvidia-geforce-gtx-480-1-5gb-review/12


Obviously the full compliment of 512 CUDA cores may help once yields improve (GTX 485 anyone?) but there looks to be precious little extra to be got from this current GPU. It's already far thirstier in terms of power consumption than AMD's multi-GPU card and in testing our GTX 480 was regularly hitting a finger-blistering (yes, we touched the heat-pipe...) 94 degrees centigrade under load.

If you ramp up the fan to take care of this (in the release drivers the fan speed was locked at around 60 per cent) it quickly becomes a jet-turbine of a card, with a whine you'll hear throughout your domicile.

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...vidia-geforce-gtx-480-679629/review?artc_pg=5

Notice any patterns here?
 
6970 is lower power usage/lowertemps/quiter
gtx 480 is higher temps/louder/higher power usage

both overclocked they beat each other in different benchies but the gtx 480 win because it has dual usage a) as a good graphics card and b) as a oven/heating plate!
 
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