Wierd one this......Kids drawing on their walls with mums permission!!!??

do you not find this a bit of an over reaction? I mean... if you take a bigger (not so narrow minded) view on things, drawing on a wall means very little; especially since they even asked permission before doing it.

So weird how this is a big deal to some people?

I get the deal with respect and ownership... but as long as they're not tastlessly spraying garbage on public/unowned to them property - then go for it? It's their room after all, and they asked permission.

Also, doing something just becuase your parents did it is a bit backwards is it not?

quoted for 2nd page... also this:

 
Late to the thread but I am going to give my 2p. Probably won't help improve my popularity...

I'm all for encouraging creativity but there is no way in hell this would happen in my house (and it didn't). Daughter wants to express her creative art skills then get her some oil or watercolours (or whatever!) or even do the blackboard thing suggested earlier in the thread.

Oh and in my eyes it is not the daughter that is to blame here (all young children have phases or silly ideas) but mother. She should have consulted with dad on this and at least agreed a compromise.

I also don't agree with the "it's their room" gang. Set some boundaries, give them some choice in the decor of the room but when push comes to shove it is part of your house where adults set the rules.

See told you I'd do my popularity no good... :D
 
I'm really ancient and can't help thinking why most replies are stating "it's HER room, so let her" etc; it is a room provided by you for her to sleep in NOT her domain where her decisions count.

She's 11 years old, not 11 months old. An adolescent, not a baby. Some degree of independence is a good thing. It won't be long before she's an adult and she needs to learn how to handle indepence. That's not a small lesson and it's best learned in bits over years. So, to some extent, it should be treated as her domain where her decisions count...and where she has to live with them to some extent. So, for example, if she decides she doesn't like it, she should have to do some of the work to cover it up.

It is not merely a room provided by her parents for her to sleep in - it is her personal space within her home. Even a pet dog is allowed a degree of personal space.

Same goes for letting toddlers choose their hairstyle or clothes; only when they have learned what is acceptable and are paying themselves, should they be given the freedom/privilege of choice IMO. That is not to say that they can't earn such luxeries as having a say in the decoration of 'their' room but letting them think that they have a right to such things is wrong, again IMO.

I think it's part of the maturing process, part of guiding them to adulthood. Completely dictating every aspect of their lives until they get a job is taking it way too far in my opinion.

Look out for the old .... playing one against the other trick too.

Always popular, because it works. I wouldn't be surprised if it predated humanity. Asking the parent most likely to agree and using that agreement as leverage to get the other parent to agree probably worked for older homo species.
 
just suggested the black board paint idea and apparently that would look crap. I thought that was a good half way meeting point.

TBH im fuming that mum told an 11 year old its ok to grafeeti on walls and thats its the in thing.

I don't see the problem tbh... she's not looking to draw on the walls in order to vandalise/deface them - she is using grafeeti in order to decorate her room they way she wants.

IMO just give her a plain white wall and let her crack on - insist on newspaper being put down, make sure she opens windows when using spray paint/air brushes etc.. - if you decide she needs to move rooms later or you want to sell the house then its just one wall which needs to be painted white again - perhaps just make this a condition - she wants to draw on her wall then its her job to paint over the wall if you come to sell the house in future

Aside from that I'd be inclined to say its her room she should have the freedom to decorate it how she wants.
 
TBH i went mental at mum for encouraging her to draw on walls. Surely this encourages the behavior?

Am I the only one who thinks the OP sounds a bit deranged? Since when is "going mental" at someone (about some writing on a wall, for crying out loud) setting a good example for the child?

Glad I'm not part of your family :-/
 
well its obviously me then as i thought its totally unacceptable.

Why do you think its unacceptable.

Other than general conditioning that 'graffiti = bad' (which it generally is when used to deface public places) what actual reasons do you have for objecting to a girl decorating her room in a way she'd like.

She's not asking for cans of spray paint so she can pop down to the local rail yard - she merely wants to spray her own wall.
 
I'm really ancient and can't help thinking why most replies are stating "it's HER room, so let her" etc; it is a room provided by you for her to sleep in NOT her domain where her decisions count.

Same goes for letting toddlers choose their hairstyle or clothes; only when they have learned what is acceptable and are paying themselves, should they be given the freedom/privilege of choice IMO. That is not to say that they can't earn such luxeries as having a say in the decoration of 'their' room but letting them think that they have a right to such things is wrong, again IMO.

of course they have a right to choose how to have their hair and decorate their rooms.

Its not your room, its theirs. If somebody is the sort that doesnt like that, they shouldn't have children in the first place !

They've got 50/60 years of adulthead ahead of them, where they are going to have rooms decorated in an adult fashion, let them live and enjoy their childhood. It doesnt last for long so let them enjoy their freedom while they can.

I'm a parent, and about the only expectation i have of my child is that he makes an effort to help tidy it and not leave us with mountains of junk everywhere. I'm not the sort that will rigily make him clean his room every week, and refuse to help him. I just dont want to have the **** taken with me by leaving everything for me to do.

I dont believe in all this "its my house, and a room i own and think yourself lucky that i've given you one so you'll do as i say" nonsense. You chose to have kids, you HAVE to give them a room to sleep in.
 
She's 11 years old, not 11 months old. An adolescent, not a baby. Some degree of independence is a good thing. It won't be long before she's an adult and she needs to learn how to handle indepence. That's not a small lesson and it's best learned in bits over years. So, to some extent, it should be treated as her domain where her decisions count...and where she has to live with them to some extent. So, for example, if she decides she doesn't like it, she should have to do some of the work to cover it up.

It is not merely a room provided by her parents for her to sleep in - it is her personal space within her home. Even a pet dog is allowed a degree of personal space.



I think it's part of the maturing process, part of guiding them to adulthood. Completely dictating every aspect of their lives until they get a job is taking it way too far in my opinion.



Always popular, because it works. I wouldn't be surprised if it predated humanity. Asking the parent most likely to agree and using that agreement as leverage to get the other parent to agree probably worked for older homo species.

Pretty much agree with most of your post; I just see far too many small children who almost dictate what the parents will do as oposed to the other way around.

Both of my boys have grown up well balanced and caring adults so me and mum were maybe not quite as draconian as I may have given the impression. ;)
 
Pretty much agree with most of your post; I just see far too many small children who almost dictate what the parents will do as oposed to the other way around.

Both of my boys have grown up well balanced and caring adults so me and mum were maybe not quite as draconian as I may have given the impression. ;)

theres a difference between bringing up a spoilt brat and letting them enjoy their childhood while it lasts.
 
My mum went 'spare' at me when I doodled on a bit of my bedroom wall as a young lad, never did it again. :eek: I wouldn't allow my kids, if there were any :D, to do it either.

Self expression, my backside. :rolleyes:

theres a difference between mindless drawing on the walls

and asking to decorate the room with her name in the style of graffiti.

Kids have always decorated their rooms, put posters up, chosen the colour, put name badges on the door, keep out signs etc..

Its just another form of expression the same as the above. People get all hooked on it because of the use of the word graffiti :rolleyes:
 
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