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Discussion in 'Console Games & Hardware' started by Robert1986, 7 Jun 2011.

  1. Margaret

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    No need for the insult. Vs.

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    On a monitor, that is 1920x1080 native ANY resolution below it is going to look substantially worse.

    TVs however, are much, much, much better at scaling. The result is 720P content can look fantastic on 1080P displays.

    So yes, on a monitor the difference between 720P and 1080P is night and day. Well done.

    Edit: Not sure if it's the consoles themselves that are good at scaling or the TVs but either way playing games at 1280x720 on a 1920x1080 PC monitor looks awful.
     
  2. NZXT30

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    its the only game a ps2 port and it still struggles to keep the resolution. most of the content is ported from ps2 and that is why the ps3 can keep that resolution and 60fps at some times.

    yes it can but the same content on native 1080p would look much much better. i own a tv and a projector and the scaling is not any better than my monitor. the difference is still huge. there is no magic... try it yourself if you can.

    why is it so hard to understand that doubling the pixels gives a great visual boost? doesn't it make sense to you?
     
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  3. Buckster

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    as its the 360/PS3 that does the scaling NOT the TV

    unless you set your PS3/360 to 720p even though your TV is 1080p - which would be a bit= silly
     
  4. Margaret

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    I put that in my edit before your post. Way to jump the gun.

    Displays can scale themselves, hence the confusion.
     
  5. exhashdotdot

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    I wonder if it has anything to do pixel densities. Guess it's a topic for another thread.

    Also i'm pretty sure he's trolling.
     
  6. DBT85

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    I give up.
     
  7. Margaret

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    The difference will be bigger on a projector because the screen area is much larger. I've already said that distance and screen size are the important factors here.

    37", 5 feet back, 1080P vs 720P Blu-Ray is identical. I've tested it myself, either way Band of Brothers was looking fantastic.
     
  8. Buckster

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    this thread is great

    surely since 99% of TVs/monitors whatever are 1080p now

    any new consoles should output their games natively at 1080p with AA - simple as

    especially since 99% of the time difference from 720p to 1080p is GPU limitations not CPU limitations

    my TVs not a TV anyway - its a monitor/panel :)
     
  9. Margaret

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    I think it's a no brainer that the next gen of consoles are all going to be 1080P.

    You can get a 1080P TV for like $350 in the US now I think. It's gonna happen.
     
  10. NZXT30

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    blu ray is different most of the time the bitrate is not enough to display the difference and not the actual resolution. you can edit an old youtube video to 1080p but you wont see a difference it will still be a mess. we are talking about games here which render in real time so keep it on topic.
     
  11. Buckster

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    we agree :)

    lets just hope this between -gen console can cope-it should do if they've picked the right GPU
     
  12. Buckster

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    wow theres some weird stuffon here - Bluray bitrate is NOT enough for 1080p ?

    absolute rubbish

    25/30mbits/second for video is plenty for 1080p
     
  13. Margaret

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    Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh dear.

    You have no clue what you are talking about.

    I shall take my leave with this silly 1080P discussion now.
     
  14. Buckster

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    me too I'm out

    theres some weird (WRONG) pub talk going on in this thread !

    you don't think that perhaps when they decided upon a Bluray standard that they'd pick a suitable bitrate for the resolution ? :)
     
  15. NZXT30

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    sorry i meant to say generally in videos not for bluray. check comparisons on the internet there is still a difference on bluray. however the way games work is completely different there is a huge quality increase. i'm out too. go back to your delusional posts. i just wanted to bring a dose of reality.
     
  16. Buckster

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    fair enough

    lets face it - in summary 1080p should be the standard for any new consoles

    any lower is a technical compromise
     
  17. CliffyBiro

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    Games aren't converted from film... Go away.
     
  18. djkav

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    Im looking forward to seeing BF3 on Wii-U and how devs will come up with interesting gameplay ideas using the TabletPad.
     
  19. wannabedamned

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    Thing is your version of reality and everyone elses seems to be very different. There's no point talking facts, when you dont seem to know much about the topic at hand. Your post above about bluray playback and real time rendered gaming just baffled me.... o.O
     
  20. CliffyBiro

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    The one thing that I thought could be awesome on this is Madden. Planning plays on the controller like a tactics board. :D